Hiatus

How do you feel about the Hiatus? I'd love to see them again but they aren't leaving a hole in my life. I have plenty of other bands to stalk and I'm keeping in touch with almost all of the Fruheads that I really want to. If there wasn't a Camp Fruvous at FRFF and a FHDC then I'd feel worse.

*shrugs*
Life goes on.
:)

They were a lot of fun, but, there are a lot of good bands out there.

The community is why I'm still here at FHDC.

yup.
i realized at frff that i don't even miss fruvous anymore. there are lots of wonderful musicians to stalk -- er, see -- and there's still fhdc, frff, frucon, and so many other ways of staying in touch and having fun with fruhead friends.

I never saw them live!!!����

I certainly can't speak of others since I arrived in the Fruvous camp late in the game, but my feeling is that it's the natural order of things.� Bands form and break up or take breaks from playing.� Yes I miss them, but life also continues on.� I won't remain in the dark like the Fruhead light bulb joke suggests, but check out all the other groups that I have grown to love because of Fruvous, or continue to love pre-Fruvous.�� The fact that we have a Camp Fruvous and a Frucon shows how many of us have moved on and stuck with the friendships that have arisen because of Fruvous, even the ones formed in the absense of Fruvous.� Like Murray said once, "First we were the reason.� Then we were the excuse.� Now we are irrelevant."

It also makes me happy that all the Frulads are generally happy with their time off from Fruvous, particularly Mike Ford, who is living out his dream.

I'm at the point where if Fruvous suddenly called it quits, I would be sad, but not totally downtrodden.� It's been 2 1/2 years since their last show, and 3 years since I last saw a Fruvous show, so it wouldn't be such a sudden thing to have live Fruvous shows out of my life forever.� Particularly not when they have already made their mark on my life in SO many ways.� I wonder what my life would be like if it wasn't for Fruvous, seriously.

I miss them dearly, actually miss them more just because I don't get to see or interact with them, that was always part of the fun, you know, the after show BS session or whatever... thankfully, as Carey and others know, I have a young band that's extremely stalkalicious AND they're a Chicago band so sometimes I can even see 'em once a week! *siiigh*

wait, theres a fruhead lightbulb joke? tell me it!

Question: "How many fruheads does it take to change a lightbulb?"

Answer: "None, they just sit there in the dark and insist that the lightbulb is on a "temporary hiatus"."

:D

*chuckle*

i *heart* that joke

I'm one of the rare fruheads who first encountered them WHEN I saw them live. . .but i didn't know any of the songs, so i probably could not appreciate it as well. . and i dont even remember them playing king of spain. you'd think i'd remember that.

the fruhead lightbulb joke is funny. . but there's also a break in the logic. because fruvous specifically CALLED it a hiatus themselves.� it's not like the band�actually broke up and we're all in denial.���The bulb didn't burn out, they just turned out the lights for a while to save energy so the bulb WOULDN'T burn out.�

I'm still hoping they get back together, because I REALLY REALLY want to see them live again, and sing along and dance and all that. cause i would appreciate it more.� But if they don't, I will live. my other favorite singers/bands are still kickin', and it's not like the lads are dead or anything.� we can still see murray in GBS and listen to Dave's solo album and see Jian on tv (for those of us that like that).

I will say that I think the people who say "it's done. it's over" are wrong. it's not over until they say it is, and since they haven't announced a breakUP, I still consider it a just a break.� I hold fast to the belief that if they decide to never tour/record again, they'll let us know.

And like I said, Jian said in an interview that he's "confident about the future of fruvous."� (although it troubles me that when I talked to him earlier this summer, he spoke of fruvous in the past tense.� .who knows. coulda been context. i dont know)�

but it does make me happy that they are doing other things. i mean, look at dave's solo album. it's purely wonderful.� and not in the style of fruvous at all. without the hiatus, he would not have been able to do that.� And I personally like Jian's tv show.

For those of you who were at Falcon Ridge, look at all the fruvous references that were there, coming from DaVinci's notebook, and Vance Gilbert.� And I talked to a lot of people who mentioned them too. The general consensus seems to be that Moxy Fruvous is not, in fact, dead.� I, for one, still think of them as a band, just one that isn't doing much together lately, and might not for a while.� But until then, we have all their other side endeavors, the other music, and of course, the friendships we are making. I was so glad to meet a bunch of you at Falcon Ridge.

so. . .sorry to make this very very long. but those are my thoughts.

You are right about the Fruvous references at Falcon Ridge this year, I've never heard so many made, including in 2001 when Jian was there as a solo performer.� Nerissa Nields was also talking about the dorky Moxy Fruvous fan during the Groove, Stomp and Shout workshop as she was introducing Tomorrowland.

For those of you who were at Falcon Ridge, look at all the fruvous references that were there, coming from DaVinci's notebook, and Vance Gilbert. And I talked to a lot of people who mentioned them too. The general consensus seems to be that Moxy Fruvous is not, in fact, dead.

Well, people make a lot of beatles references too... but I don't see them doing a reunion tour. Hehe.
;)

(And no, I'm not being a jerk.. I just couldn't resist commenting.)

HEY! Not the Beatles. :)

you lay off the beatles, buddy!

I'll lay on whoever i want, buddy.

Don't "buddy" me... buddy.

How would you get them together again anyhow? The only way to it might be one more bullet and one more heart attack.

but it does make me happy that they are doing other things. i mean, look at dave's solo album. it's purely wonderful.� and not in the style of fruvous at all. without the hiatus, he would not have been able to do that.

Why not?� Plenty of artists release solo/side projects while still involved with another band.� Was being in Fr�vous SO time-consuming that the members couldn't do ANYTHING else while it was still together?

And I personally like Jian's tv show.

I've never seen it, nor am I in a position to do so.� I am kind of curious as to how big this show is, though.� Is it some huge thing in Canada, or just some kind of public access/local cable show in Toronto or whatever?

Personally, I wish the band hadn't gone on hiatus, especially since I only got the chance to see them live once.� Of course, I'm in no position to demand that they get back together, and I've become used to the band not being a going concern for the time being.� Perhaps ironically, the aforementioned fact that I've only seen them once probably means I don't feel as much of a loss as the people who were used to seeing them often might have.

Was being in Fr�vous SO time-consuming that the members couldn't do ANYTHING else while it was still together?
Actually, I think it was. Take a look at their old tour schedules on FDC; they barely had time to breathe, let alone pursue independent projects.

yeah. i second that. . .i mean, he MIGHT have been able to. . .but it would have been a lot of work, and pretty difficult. in any case, he certainly could not have written those songs with fruvous.� it's actually cool to see the individual musical styles of the Lads independent of Fruvous.

it's interesting that you mentioned not feeling as much of a loss as people who saw them regularly. I also have only seen them once, but i feel an even bigger loss because i feel like i missed out on a cool phenomena.� I feel like I missed the 60's or something. Like that Susan Werner song, "Born a Little Late."� My version would be something like "Must be a thornhill to become a fruhead a little late."

(okay, you probably have no idea what i'm talking about there)� But i look at all the cool stuff they did with frumiles and frucards during "the golden years," and i'm like "damn! i missed that!"�

then i remember that i was only 13-14 during all of that, and probably would not have been able to trek across the country so often anyway.

by the way, what IS mike up to? besides bein' a dad.

lauren, i *heart* that susan song!

i was late to the fruvous game (1999), but i did get to see them about 10 times, including the wxpn fru-b-cue, a few festivals, and some great frutrips. so i guess i can't feel too bad about having missed out on the glory days.

oh, and mike's been doing some sort of canadian history/musical education program at different schools in canada. that's how i understand it, anyway. maybe some of the attendees of this past frucon can explain it better, because they actually got to see him in action. :)

Mike Ford is touring schools in Ontario doing performances with a focus on Canadian history and culture.� He does this through mostly old folk songs that he has collected over the years, and tailors his performance to the age-group he is performing.

I posted some information Mike passed out to some of us who were lucky enough to see a show of his during Frucon 6 weekend.� You can find it here.

And he is having an ABSOLUTE BLAST doing it.

"I feel like I missed the 60's or something."

That's *exactly* how I feel.� I remember listening to Bargainville waaaaaay back when I was in grade 6, but I didn't really catch on until later in high school when they had already stopped touring.� Besides, I was only about 12 years old and I know I wouldn't have been allowed to step outside my house after dark, let alone go to concerts.

Missing the '60's is forgivable, I mean, I wasn't born 'till the '80's...but I missed Fr�vous too.� And I was right here when it happened!����

But the '00's are the new '60's!!!

I feel like a nut replying to my own post.����

And I personally like Jian's tv show.

I've never seen it, nor am I in a position to do so.� I am kind of curious as to how big this show is, though.� Is it some huge thing in Canada, or just some kind of public access/local cable show in Toronto or whatever?

It's on CBC Newsworld and it's broadcasted throughout canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/play/

...and also the United States, Mexico and the Caribbean on Newsworld International, I believe.

http://www.nwitv.com/on.the.arts/

However, CBC Newsworld is a cable only station and it is a news only station. >Play is the only entertainment news show on the station, mostly its like Cnn, newscasts and talk shows. No idea on ratings.

Oh I forgot, there is a book show, I guess that is entertainment programming as well.

It's included with basic cable where I am, but then I'm in Waterloo, ON�(or Toronto).� Maybe it isn't for other areas or something.

the hiatus hits hardest those who were around during the early years.� most of us here do not fall into that category, and there are very few left who are here, much less waiting for them to come back.� i'm thinking of the ones watched them busk on the street corner, get their first gigs, pick up copies of their indie tape when it first came out, that kind of thing.� colleen, rosemary, etc.� all gone, no more.� we're all later generations, and we're used to bands breaking up. (:� as much of a way to lose time for us back in the day, for them it was a way of life beyond anything we can imagine most likely.

for the rest of us left, we're in our own little heydays.� when something goes, something else takes its place, and few of us have grown old enough to not have the capacity to have that place filled.� efo, dvn, other folk acts, etc.� there's something for everyone.� what surprises me sometimes is the many different paths musically some of us take. :D

�-= george =-

Er... that isn't quite right, George. The people who saw them busking in front of the bloor cinema, and who remember their big Canadian tour of 1993, and the indie tape and so fort mostly were never fruheads at all.

Fruheadism really took off starting in late 1995 after Wood came out and they were increasingly concetrating on the US. Most of the "Old School" Fruheads you could name do not remember the busking days, or the days when they were a household name in Canada. Rosemary goes back that far, and Colleen did see them relatively early at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in Scotland, but the rest of us don't go back THAT far.

Also there was no organized "Fruhead" movement until the internet brought us together. The Toronto-based "Moxy Morons" was a completely different phenomenon which is really unconnected to the Fruheads.

Speaking of old school fruhead, I did see Chris and Zard at FRFF. They told me Colleen was up on the hill, although I don't think they talked to her, because nobody knew if she had actually gotten married or not. I also saw Jason Reiser and Katherine Kent there, oh, and of course Ofer. :)

Yeah I saw Colleen too but I was too scared to talk to her because back when we actually met I was too invisible to be remembered and I hate putting people in a position where they have to feel embarrassed for not remembering me. :)

Well, I don't miss subzero Toronto weather in February, but I do miss going to Frucon (it just doesn't seem the same without them) and just seeing them perform in general. I'm still standing stage Dave at other shows.

Are you kidding? Freezing your ass off in front of the venue while the staff puts up signs saying doors 8:15 8:30 8:45 9:15 13:95 was the best part!

I was going to say the same thing. That and admonishing Kat for not wearing a hat :-)

Kat in the hat?

No, Kat not in a hat. that was the point.

*wookie noise*

When the Hiatus officially started, my first reaction was "Thank God! Now I can get�a life!"�

And now I'm thinking... um, can I give back now??� I'm tired of being an adult and being mindful of money and responsibility and not jumping in the car last minute to drive to albany or something like that.

But i miss the music... i miss the banter... i miss the improv... i miss spending a few minutes chatting it up with the guys after the show... i miss pimpin' the merch... and i miss Tobey :(

I don't believe the hiatus is permanent, but i do believe that after intense touring for the better part of 10 years straight doing for all intents and purposes the same thing 6 nights a week... I'd imagine it would take a little more than a few months or even a few years to recover, catch up on what's going on in the world, explore new horizons, do a little individual growing, etc.� That's why professors go on sabbatical, to get out of the sterile controlled class environment and do something enriching, learn and grow and experiment on their own so that they can bring something new and worthwhile (including a renewed passion to teach) into the classroom.�

I consider the hiatus to be the same thing.� I think they need this.� In truth, I think Fruvous as we knew it in 2000 was getting stale in their minds, and in a way for a lot of us madly collecting frumiles stamps it was starting to get stale as well (heh, how many folks out there had their "bathroom song," and knew just about when it was going to happen?)� I'm hoping that if or when the hiatus is over and they start touring again, it will be because they want to and are excited about it, not because they are obligated to do it.

Angie
it hurts being an adult.

WORD yo.

it hurts being an adult.

o/~ everybody knows it sucks to grow up o/~

the thing that made me laugh about seeing this forum is that i heard one of the madmen from DVN is planning on making buttons for -next- FRFF that say 'four years in -not- a hiatus'....

which sorta cracks me up at this point. i have felt for a while that 'we'{the collective 'we'} hafta give up the ghost per se.

i don't think they are coming back. yes, it's saddening, and i hate to go so far as to -say- it.....but i just don't see it happening. and so, if they did, yah..it'd be a welcome surprise......

i am thankful for the fact that they brought so many of us together in music and zanyness

i cut my road-tripping teeth on fr�vous show trips and have honed my skills greatly since then. for that i am also thankful.

werd.

Excellent post, Shellz. :)

It was a lot of fun while it lasted.

yeah. i'm a little confused about your statement that we need to "give up the ghost"...nobody i know is really hanging onto any sort of ghost. certainly nobody's wailing and gnashing their teeth or rocking back and forth in a fetal position while moaning, "whither fruvous?" to the uncaring sky. :) people seem to have gone on with their lives. do you mean that we should stop hanging out on fhdc? stop listening to fruvous? talking about fruvous? like i said, i'm confused.

hey. i am.

of course, in my world the sky cares.

and it's plaid.

*giggle*

heee!

certainly nobody's wailing and gnashing their teeth

Is that some sort of crack about my name?

i never -said- that people didn't go on with their lives, rocked, gnashed, whatever else you mentioned..... nor do i mean people shouldn't hang out here or listen to their music..

by giving up the ghost i just meant that maybe those who -are- still thinkin that they'll come back shouldn't get their hopes up.

which i thought i said.

maybe i misheard myself?

no, i just misinterpreted.
*dumb*

but Shelly... why should people assume that they aren't coming back anymore than they should assume that they are?

welp, at this point, I think it's not all that likely.
The band's been broken up for a while.
:)

*cries*

You know... I just love how no one listens to me.

Who didn't listen to you?
I just have a different opinion.

I think it was that your reply wasn't really an answer to the question posed.

It's your opinion that "broken up" is something that *we* determine rather than the band?

*shrugs* at a certain point, it stops being a hiatus.
:)

maybe that point is when the *band* says so. That makes the most sense to me seeing as how it is *their lives*

Well, that's fine.

But for me, it stopped being a hiatus a while ago.

Just my $.02.

I just think it's exceedingly arrogant to presume to know conclusively that the band is "broken up" when the band members themselves continue to adamantly insist that they are not.

If it is easier for you emotionally to believe that the band is broken up, that's one thing, but to say with a conclusive authoritative tone "the band has been broken up for a while" just... makes no sense.

I think that "broken up" is, by definition, something that the people *directly involved* determine, not the outside observers. By that definition, what it is "to you" doesn't really matter objectively. I mean, it matters to you, and you're welcome to share that, of course. As your friend, I care what you think. But quite frankly, the feigned certainty of a lot of people just gets on my nerves. The objective facts are that Moxy Fruvous has been on a hiatus for... what is it, three years now? And that they are not broken up, though we do not know whether the hiatus will end in more collaborative projects, or an actual breakup. You think that they *will* break up, and that's fine. Personally, I choose not to speculate.

As I said... I actually don't care one way or the other. :)

It's not a matter of being easier emotionally.... it's just that, in my mind, "temporary hiatus" is pretty funny, considering the circumstances.

Also, heh, I don't see what the big deal is.

Semantics. They're important to me. I'm a freak.

Heee
Okay okay.. then I shall go back to my own little world.
:)

Yay! I win!

Heh.
:)

word yo.

I listen to you, I just don't want to fight with nate, so I won't. :)

But it's so much fun!

Not as fun as poking him.

*giggle*

I just really don't know what to think.

I don't think there's really any evidence for "should", but from an emotional standpoint I'd *rather* assume they aren't coming back. I'd rather accept the bad part and then maybe be pleasantly surprised...it's just the way I approach most of my wishes or hopes. You know, the "expect the worst and never be disappointed" approach. May not be healthy, but it's how I go about things.

So yes, it's just as unfounded to assume they won't come back as to assume they will, but emotionally it helps. For me, anyway.

Hmmm...

See, this is something that I've suspected for a long time regarding many who insist that the band isn't coming back. I mean *insist* rather than just speculate. Those of us who choose not to speculate are sometimes accused of "holding on" too tight and too long... but really, who's more emotionally tied up in this?

I see your point. I don't put a whole lot of thought and effort into it, honestly. But when I do think about it I look at it the way I stated above.

The thing is...I'm not all that upset when I think they may not be back. I'm confident they'll keep putting out art whether together or apart. And I'm thankful for the changes in my life that my love for the band brought forth. I miss them sometimes...I really do. But I'm also content that it's a chapter in my life that may be closed.

Me, I don't insist that they won't return. I think it's unlikely. But if they do I'll welcome them back with open arms (and open wallet, buying tickets or albums! :) )

Exactly.
I don't mind one way or th-other.... if they come back, cool, if not, no biggie.

Either way, I had a lot of fun while they were around.

:)

BUT, I also disagree with calling it a breakup. :) I agree with gella that it's a distinction nobody but the band can impose. Your belief is relevant to your expectations and emotions but it doesn't change the fact that they still maintain it's a hiatus.

I could believe an author has retired if they haven't written a book in a couple of decades, but if they say they're just taking a break then my belief is irrelevant to anything outside of my own emotions.

Yeah, that's what I meant. You said it less snarkily. :)

This is all so interesting to read!!!!� Just everyone's different opinions on it and the "emotional and non-emotional investments."�

i agree with everyone who's saying it's still a hiatus until the band tells us otherwise.� I don't like the assumption that some of us are "holding on too long" or being unrealistic.� It's not like they broke up and we're all like "no they didn't break up! they'll get back together!"

if they do start touring/recording again, all of these discussions and the fruhead lightbulb joke will be really funny. . it could be regarded as a certain chapter in fruhead history.

*fear* who's writing that?

your mom :)

Jian? Really?

ok

*deep breath*

Is the hiatus permanent? I have no idea. Is the band broken up? No. They haven't said so, in fact, they say explicitly that it is not, therefore, no. Moxy Fr�vous has not broken up.

Am I pining away? No.

Do I miss them? Hells yes.

BUT

This February, I went to Toronto and I saw a core of people whom I love. We sat around and sang Moxy Fr�vous songs and watched old videos and had a wonderful time. And I saw and talked to and hugged three out of four of the members of Moxy Fr�vous. I was excited to see them and they were excited to see me, and I got more time with each of them than I ever did after a Moxy Fr�vous show... and as much as I miss the music and the improv of the show, the personal interaction is what I miss most. What I realized in February is that these guys are people who exist outside of the entity known as Moxy Fr�vous. People don't disappear. Until they start dying, I don't feel like I have to worry about Moxy Fr�vous because the best part, the guys, are still there. They still know us, those of us whom they know. They haven't forgotten anything and neither have we and it's all still *there* whether the band is touring or not. As you get older, time moves faster. It doesn't feel like that long since February... not nearly as long as it used to feel between Fr�vous shows which was never more than 2 and a half months for me. Things are different now. I'm different. They're different. What was will never will be again, but there might yet be something new.

So... that's how I feel. Not indifferent, but not desperate. Emotionally involved, but not obsessed or deluded. They're on break. It might become break-up if they get to like it. But it's not there yet... meanwhile, I'm not on the edge of my seat. Just sitting back. We'll see.

What a great post Gella!!! You rule!

I second that! But I also liked all the other posts too.

For me, I was/am as fascinated by the fruhead phenomenon as I was by the band. There are at least two reasons for that and I guess they are somewhat related. One, I live out here on the left coast so as much as I could obsess about having all the cd's and keep up on what zaniness the band was up to live there were not that many shows within a reasonable distance to see. And of course, being as old as dirt....er I mean Gordon��... I found myself with a a different set of priorities than many of you which kept me out of the "willing to go unreasonable distances for unreasonable lengths of time" group. Not that I often didn't wish I could!

But as to the hiatus, I am willing to wait to see what happens. Personally, I don't mind if I now have to follow the careers of four guys rather than one group, it all belongs to the same continuum.

I'm the symbol of being old? Sigh, it's so hard to be me. I think I'll make a six song EP about it.

instead of "lousy boy" it will just be "old boy"

oOi've always been a creeeeepy maaaaaaanOo

We were just discussing me being old, not creepy. Is the consensus that I'm creepy too?

*votes yes*

well, duh.

and you guys are my friends, I'm afraid to hear what other people think.

they think the same thing; they just say it supersecretly. :)

Hey that is exactly how i feel! i think you said it great. they are still people, they are still around, and they are still just as "accessible" and friendly and kind and cool and smart wonderful guys!�

i think you nailed it dear.

on a separate note. . . .does fruvous still go to the frucons?� (noting your mentioning of them being there in february)� if that is true, do they perform? cause that would make it . .like, not a hiatus?� (kind of like two people breaking up but then still having sex sometimes. . .except. . . .not)

Lol! I am not sure I needed that visual in connection with Fruvous.

yes you did. you know it. :)

hey, i just realized you're in the centerfold of the live noise liner notes. that is you, isn't it?� i was like, 'hey! i met him at falcon ridge!!"

Yes, yes I admit that is me. I was told by the band that I was going to "like" the layout of the Live Noise liner. Heh. :)

No, none of them came to FruCon, we just stalked them. :)

Actually, Mike invited us to see him do his kids act... Then I got snowed out of America and hence had an opportunity to see Dave play solo and a taping of Jian's TV show.

I refuse to believe that "Huge on the Luge" is Fr�vous' last project together.

(Good song... but not worthy of a finale.)

*snogs yer avatar*

You've got a point there...

yes. yes you do.

also. the c album? they can't go out on that.� it's good but it's not an official album.�

them ending on huge on the luge would be like . . .like a deceptive cadence.�

like the end of monty python and the holy grail

Hey, isn't the Sunny Side with Steve Burgess theme their last thing?
(I mean, if you want to get technical ;-)

If nothing else, even if the band declared themselves over tomorrow (and I'm personally in the "they aren't over camp" myself), I think they should/might/will have another album of sorts.
There's plenty of stuff to make "D"
(A lot of which I expected to get on "C")

I'm sure they could make another live album too with stuff they have lying around.

Another idea might be to go full circle of sorts, and release an "A" album made of recordings of their busking days.

My mom's crazy. She said they should make D - Z before anything happens to them... and she's a nut because she actually menitoned every single letter.... aaahhh... Nut.

To me (and this is just me) C sounded like a bit of a farewell. There were a lot of in-jokes, a lot of things that seemed a little "let's do a few more for all the people who stayed to the end of the show," sort of thing.

I don't know if I'm communicating this well...

Naw, I think I know what you mean....
They didn't have it in them to do a "real" album before the hiatus, so they figured they'd throw together some fun stuff quickly...

And they threw on some that people kept asking for. :)

Not to mention a very cheap and quick way to put a lot of money into the Fruvous bank to help subsidize the hiatus. As Mike Ford said at a show, "The C Album is the best, because it cost us the least to make! HA HA!"

Yep, that too. :)

Come on, they are on the typical Beatles journey as a band:

Please Please Me - Help = Bargainville

Rubber Soul/Revolver = Wood

Past Masters (Singles & B-sides) = B album & You Will Go To The Moon

Sgt. Pepper = Thornhill

Magical Mystery Tour = C Album

So, this means all we are waiting for is Fruvous's White Album where all the lads comes together with a ton of uncollaborated songs stuff into a two disc set simpled titled "Moxy Fruvous", a documentary on their own Let It Be album where Jian falls madly in love with some woman that the other lads despise and want to start suing each other, followed by one last great album, Fruvous's Abbey Road.� Oh yeah, where would Fruvous do an unannounced rooftop concert? :)

Wasn't Yoko on an episode of Play? ;-)

yeah, and i think jian actually did say "maybe yoko and i will hook up.". . . .which is a mental image i didn't need.

but hey, why are we making jian = john lennon? b/c their names are similar? i dont know. is jian the john lennon of fruvous? i kind of see him as the ringo. what do you think? this would make a good thread. which fru member lines up with what beatle?

I hope this doesn't mean that one of them will make a series of� cheesy records, featuring the little wife on keyboards. And do an awful duet with Michael Jackson *shiver*

Going by that, one of them would have to be murdered. :o/

yeah yeah yeah! he could fall in love with some woman that threatened to break up the band, and then the words of the song could go like:

Yoko. . .put the bottle down
I won't let you break us up
The other Frulads think you suck
You're screechy and you cannot sing
Can't harmonize worth a damn
And you jeopardize . . .our little band

*glee*

Murder? Murder? Never, not all Beatle-isms must be followed,

i dont know, judging by some of the jianimosity i've seen. . .it could happen. . .not that i want it to. i like jian :)

and i actually think Sgt Pepper = You will go to the moon, not Thornhill. B/C both Sgt Pepper and YWGTTM are hailed as the band's "revolutionary albums"

Then what would that make Thornhill? The White Album?

I'm not sure. Probably, except I really like the white album and i'm kind of lukewarm with thornhill. as far as personal tastes go.

I have in front of me a Thornhill promotional handbill on which Murray drew an arrow pointing to the picture of the Thornhill album cover under which he wrote "Abbey Road."

oooh yeah. . .you do have a point. they both are, after all, names of places (band haunts, to be specific).

was abbey road the beatles's final album? (should know. don't.)


btw. . .has anyone, you know, *asked* any of Fruvous about any of this (hiatus, breakup, reunion, etc)?

Abbey Road was the last Beatles album recorded, but not the last one released. Let It Be, which essentially was the Get Back sessions bastardized by Phil Spector, was released in May of 1970, after the breakup. Abbey Road was released in 1969.

None of us have asked the Frulads about the status, but Jian keeps affirming in interviewing that Fruvous is still a entity, but only when asked. I know when a few of us had lunch with Mike Ford during Frucon 6, no one asked him what the status of Fruvous was. We did talk about if he missed going around to all those places, and he said he missed more of the people from tour, particularly Eddie From Ohio. That's one of the big dissapointments from the cancellation of the Mike Ford/EFO show at Hugh's Place.

John, people have asked band members about the hiatus. Often. The common response is to sort of heave a little sigh and not give a straight answer, but always to affirm that Moxy Fruvous is not, in fact, broken up. Those of us who know better do not ask the question, that doesn't mean that no one does.

Who was it who saw an interview recently with jian in which he was "referring to fruvous in the past tense" as in, "When I used to be in..." etc?

I know that when Sab was talking to Mike a while back, he told her that the band had not broken up. And at different times when I've talked to Murray, Dave and Jian that they've said the same. Take that for whatever value you can. :)

that was me. I was interviewing jian and asking about fruvous. . and he spoke of fruvous in the past tense. i.e. "We never shied away from being political. Primarily we were a satire band. . . .whereas my stuff is more directly political, and personal." . . . .so, that could have been the context, because i was asking him about the difference between the fans at his solo shows and the crowds at his fruvous shows. . . . so it might not have made sense for him to speak of Fruvous in the present tense because they are not currently performing.

Jian keeps affirming in interviewing that Fruvous is still a entity, but only when asked.

My first reaction is, only when asked? Do you think he should be slipping it into his everyday conversation just in case anyone he's talking to is thinking about asking?

But really, what you said isn't true anyway. He doesn't just affirm it when asked. I've seen him introduced by hosts of other shows as "Jian Ghomeshi, formerly of Moxy Fruvous", and watched him explicitly correct the person more than once.

I've seen him introduced by hosts of other shows as "Jian Ghomeshi, formerly of Moxy Fruvous", and watched him explicitly correct the person more than once.

I just hope the correction wasn't to Former lead singer/songwriter of Moxy Fruvous

Jian hates me, I'm allowed to be mean :-)

yeah. i dont get the lead singer/songwriter thing either. mike sings lead the most out of all of them

why does jian hate you? i'm guesing its an inside joke

Not that far inside. Jian has said it enough times. It was a response to my review of Thornhill on AMMF, what he called the "infamous 40 page treatise." He then wrote me a hate letter. You can find both of them on my profile.

ah yes yes. the fiance letter. i remember. . .er. . .know about it.

A hate letter on Pooh stationary?

You didnt' now about the dark side of Pooh did you?

You rock Lauren!

Thanks!! So do you!!! :)

I know I'm a bit late in replying to this post.. but this Hiatus thing really bothers me.. I mean I love Fruvous, and have for a long time, and I wish the guys well in whatever it is they want to be doing.. but as a fan who's anxiously waiting to hear news about the band, I think it stinks that they�haven't updated us to let us know what's going on.�

I mean this is a pretty long hiatus... if they aren't planning on playing again as a band I'd like to know so I can stop holding my breath.. I mean I'm almost blue here people!!����

ditto

"i'll hold yr breath if that won't make you blue. . ."

The Police put their band on haitus in 1985 while Sting dabbled in a solo career. Apparently he is still dabbling and Andy Summers is still waiting. Stuart Copeland plays for "The Doors of the 21 Century"(as that band is calling themselves nowadays) so kids, don't hold yer breath on a new fruvous album or tour.

You call Sting's solo career a dabbling? :)

They'd only reunite if they really needed the money, like a lot of dinosaur rock bands do.� Well, they don't, which is why they will never get back together.

well yes, you have a point that we shouldn't "hold our breath," but we also have to remember that Fruvous is not The Police and neither Jian nor Dave is Sting.� So. . . .I guess as much as we'd like to look to other bands to divine what Fruvous will do, there's really no way we can know.

I think I'm gonna cry. :'(

It'd be nice to look towards other bands, but in my personal opinion the guys of Fruvous are much better as a band, then solo..

As for Jian and Dave not being Sting... come on now, we all know they're much much more then Stin could ever me����

Lowest of the Low - which is another Canadian band that originated around the time of Fruvous took a 6 year hiatus. But they got back together a couple of years ago and are once again being very successful. Jian interviewed them when he was doing the Talk TV stints and asked them all about how it was when they reformed..."for any other bands out there".

I think they are a closer comparison than The Police personally.

heheheh "for any other bands out there.:" how cute

... the other night, where I saw Fruvous at some wierd bumbershoot/falconridge like thing. Except it was kinda like a wedding reception, too, where we were all sitting on white plastic chairs around tables under a big white tent. And of course, there was someone standing in for Murray, because he was on tour with Great Big Sea. Yes, this took place in Seattle, and no, I don't know why my dream-addled brain assumed that -this- was the place they'd do a reunion show.

i had a dream that i had thanksgiving dinner with all four of them at my 88-year old godmother's house up in massachusetts. so. . .youre not that weird

That would be a great thanksgiving. :)

yeah i was really sad when i woke up

yeah, the best dream i ever had, i actualy cried when i woke up, well when i was woken up, BEFORE THE DREAM ENDED!

Simon and Garfunkel are ending their hiatus and touring together. They've been apart since before Fruvous formed. There is always hope.

i am gonna do all i can to get some tickets to thier Washington D.C. show.

If we're all desperate for fruvous, why not some of you start a moxy fruvous tribute band.

Major Fruvous

Major Fruvous's Up And Coming Once Upon A Good Time Band?

i thought that's what frff/frucon jam sessions were for. you know, when we can be bothered to get around to fruvous songs. :)