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Poll: Which do you say?

Grinder 6 (8%)
Sub 53 (71%)
Hoagie 8 (11%)
Hero 2 (3%)
Poor Boy 1 (1%)
Torpedo 0 (0%)
Other 3 (4%)
I say: Ew. 2 (3%)
   Discussion: Which do you say?
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 16 years, 11 months ago
I say sub or hero. If it's hot it's a hero, if it's cold its a sub.

Snow In Summer Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Two answers here as well.  It depends who I'm with.  With family, it's a hoagie because that's what they call 'em.  With anyone else, it's a sub.  I've picked it up from living outside Western PA & in actual civilization ;-)
ChrisChin is Getting Old · 16 years, 11 months ago
I usually say "hero bread" when I want my sandwich as a hero. Sometimes I say sub, but usually I'm at Subway or some other shop that uses sub. Otherwise, it's hero.
sheryls · 16 years, 11 months ago
i usually say sub, but grinders at a place that advertises grinders. usually grinders are hot and involve grilled bread for me, like paninis, only really long :D
Andrea Krause · 16 years, 11 months ago
I realized after making this poll that I think we may have had it before.

Anywho...I say sub, because I grew up with Sub parents...but i live in a land of grinders. I hate the term, and I hate when I find myself using it because I'm immersed in it. I mind it less when they're talking about a hot sub, for some reason...but when they say grinder about a cold sub? Really grates for some reason.
caroline: tired. · 16 years, 11 months ago
I haven't ever been out of the Philadelphia area long enough to even notice any other name. But yeah, everyone says hoagie here.
John J. Ryan Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Hoagie is a PA thing.
Prinut Back · 16 years, 11 months ago

I call it a hoagie.  My rule is that it is definitely a hoagie if it's from Wawa and any small delis in or surrounding Philly.

It's a sub if it's from Sheetz or any place in Western PA.

Rachel Marie aka RAI Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
I remember when I first heard it called a "sub" and I was like, "What in the world are you talking about?"

Hoagie pwns your pants.
100% dainty! Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
yayyyy philly and hoagies!
*joolee* Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Nor should we care b/c we are RIGHT!!!

Bruce Rose · 16 years, 11 months ago

It depends on the sandwich and the region. Long, skinny sandwiches are subs. A grinder is a hot, toasted sub.

Growing up, our local supermarket sold hoagie rolls, which were short Italian breads, about the size of a double-wide hot dog bun with a slightly thicker crust.  They were perfect for steak sandwiches. Hoagies, to me, are sandwiches on six- to eight-inch breads with both ends intact.

Po' Boys are only available in Gulf shore states, and tend to have unexpected meats on them.

nate... Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Interesting... there's never been a distinction by hot or cold for grinder around here.... another sub-regionalism, perhaps?

Bruce Rose Back · 16 years, 11 months ago

Possible. My introduction to grinders was in New London, CT. The shop didn't offer cold sandwiches that I remember.

The closest thing to a grinder I can find in Chicago is Quizno's. The toasting is pretty good, but the sandwiches aren't really big enough to be grinders. The grinders I remember were too big to close.

We had a pretty good grinder shop in Bloomington, IN (Mancino's) and another one in Indianapolis (W.G. Grinders, a chain based in Ohio).

Chiefley Back · 16 years, 10 months ago

I grew up in the New London, CT area and since moving away I have missed Grinders.  I finally took it upon myself to duplicate them out here in Ohio.  I would say the chief distinction is the copious amounts of olive oil.  In the southeastern ct area, if you order a "regular grinder", (toasted or not), it will be built from the ground up as follows:

Sliced open grinder roll
Olive oil
Single layer of overlapping slices of Provolone.
Single layer of overlapping slices of Cotto Salami
(At this point toasted in the pizza oven if desired)
Layer of sliced tomato down one side.
Thick layer of shredded lettuce.
Copious amounts of olive oil poured onto the lettuce.
Salt, pepper.

Thats pretty much it for a "regular", but the right amount of salt and pepper in the olive oil really makes it great, and quite distinguishable from a typical generic sub.


Bruce Rose Back · 16 years, 10 months ago

That sounds like a good sandwich. :-)

My first grinder was steak, peppers, onions and cheese going into the oven, lettuce and condiments after it came through. I don't remember copious amounts of oil, but that was long before I realized what olive oil could do to a sandwich.

Chiefley Back · 16 years, 10 months ago

What I described was a "regular Grinder". A typical grinder shop would sell all kinds of other grinders that are more traditionally like a sub sandwich. So the one you are describing would not have olive oil on it. For example, a tuna grinder, or a hot meatball grinder. Those are not that much different than subs and hoagies anywhere else. It's that "regular" grinder that is the distinctive one.

When I was last in CT, I had a really good grinder at Mystic Pizza Two, in No. Stonington, CT. Its a second store to the now famous Mystic Pizza in CT.

Rachel Marie aka RAI Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
I totally agree... Grinders are hot hoagies. :o)
Chiefley Back · 16 years, 10 months ago

Oh, and a very popular but regionally limited one is called a Speidie (pronounced like Speedy).  It is extremely popular in its region but somehow doesn't spread out from the Binghamton, NY area.


nate... Back · 16 years, 10 months ago
Dude, yeah, speidies ROCK!!

I used to have my sister get me speidie sauce so I could make 'em at home... back when she lived in binghamton.
Cali · 16 years, 11 months ago
i say sub. but now that im away at college in a diff. part of NY everyone says hero and they laugh at me. but its ok b/c apparently i say a lot of words wrong.
nate... · 16 years, 11 months ago
Although subs doesn't sound foreign to me either.... but... I'll almost always call them grinders out of habit.

even if I go to subway, (which I avoid) I order a grinder. :)
*joolee* Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
You hurt me ;_;

nate... Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
sorry pookie

lawrence · 16 years, 11 months ago
what's interesting is that 'sub' is not a regionalism at all, but a generic name for the type of sandwich based on its shape. there are really only a few places that have specific names for them.

that said, I'll always call them hoagies and cheesesteaks (hoagies are mostly cold, cheesesteaks are hot, and sometimes don't have steak - the important distinction, at least, is that a cheesesteak is NOT a hoagie), as my primary exposure to them was in Philadelphia. damn, I need to get back to Lee's (or Pat's, or Geno's). It's been over three months...
Josh Woodward · 16 years, 11 months ago
I think of a sub as being able to be hot or cold, but a grinder is baked.
nate... Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
iPauley · 16 years, 11 months ago's fun to make tease a guy at work who's last name is Hoag by calling him Hoagie Roll. :-P

-- Pauley
nate... Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
I *love* to make tease!

what do you make yours out of?
Andrea Krause Back · 16 years, 11 months ago

tea leaves. duh.

Jay Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Michael (foof) Maki · 16 years, 11 months ago
It's funny, because while I was vaguely aware of Sub Sandwiches beforehand, I never had one (and thus, rarely referred to them) before Subway moved into my area around my Junior year in High School.

So, after that, they were subs by default.
ChrisChin is Getting Old Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
You were influenced by The Man(tm)! For shame!

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