Poll: Which do you say?
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 16 years, 11 months ago
I say sub or hero. If it's hot it's a hero, if it's cold its a sub.
Snow In Summer · 16 years, 11 months ago
Two answers here as well. It depends who I'm with. With family, it's a hoagie because that's what they call 'em. With anyone else, it's a sub. I've picked it up from living outside Western PA & in actual civilization ;-)
ChrisChin is Getting Old · 16 years, 11 months ago
I usually say "hero bread" when I want my sandwich as a hero. Sometimes I say sub, but usually I'm at Subway or some other shop that uses sub. Otherwise, it's hero.
sheryls · 16 years, 11 months ago
i usually say sub, but grinders at a place that advertises grinders. usually grinders are hot and involve grilled bread for me, like paninis, only really long :D
Andrea Krause · 16 years, 11 months ago
I realized after making this poll that I think we may have had it before.
Anywho...I say sub, because I grew up with Sub parents...but i live in a land of grinders. I hate the term, and I hate when I find myself using it because I'm immersed in it. I mind it less when they're talking about a hot sub, for some reason...but when they say grinder about a cold sub? Really grates for some reason.
caroline: tired. · 16 years, 11 months ago
I haven't ever been out of the Philadelphia area long enough to even notice any other name. But yeah, everyone says hoagie here.
Prinut · 16 years, 11 months ago
I call it a hoagie. My rule is that it is definitely a hoagie if it's from Wawa and any small delis in or surrounding Philly.
It's a sub if it's from Sheetz or any place in Western PA.
Rachel Marie aka RAI · 16 years, 11 months ago
I remember when I first heard it called a "sub" and I was like, "What in the world are you talking about?"
Hoagie pwns your pants.
*joolee* · 16 years, 11 months ago
Nor should we care b/c we are RIGHT!!!
HOAGIE HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND!
Bruce Rose · 16 years, 11 months ago
It depends on the sandwich and the region. Long, skinny sandwiches are subs. A grinder is a hot, toasted sub.
Growing up, our local supermarket sold hoagie rolls, which were short Italian breads, about the size of a double-wide hot dog bun with a slightly thicker crust. They were perfect for steak sandwiches. Hoagies, to me, are sandwiches on six- to eight-inch breads with both ends intact.
Po' Boys are only available in Gulf shore states, and tend to have unexpected meats on them.
Interesting... there's never been a distinction by hot or cold for grinder around here.... another sub-regionalism, perhaps?
Bruce Rose · 16 years, 11 months ago
Possible. My introduction to grinders was in New London, CT. The shop didn't offer cold sandwiches that I remember.
The closest thing to a grinder I can find in Chicago is Quizno's. The toasting is pretty good, but the sandwiches aren't really big enough to be grinders. The grinders I remember were too big to close.
We had a pretty good grinder shop in Bloomington, IN (Mancino's) and another one in Indianapolis (W.G. Grinders, a chain based in Ohio).
I grew up in the New London, CT area and since moving away I have missed Grinders. I finally took it upon myself to duplicate them out here in Ohio. I would say the chief distinction is the copious amounts of olive oil. In the southeastern ct area, if you order a "regular grinder", (toasted or not), it will be built from the ground up as follows:
Sliced open grinder roll
Bruce Rose · 16 years, 10 months ago
That sounds like a good sandwich. :-)
My first grinder was steak, peppers, onions and cheese going into the oven, lettuce and condiments after it came through. I don't remember copious amounts of oil, but that was long before I realized what olive oil could do to a sandwich.
What I described was a "regular Grinder". A typical grinder shop would sell all kinds of other grinders that are more traditionally like a sub sandwich. So the one you are describing would not have olive oil on it. For example, a tuna grinder, or a hot meatball grinder. Those are not that much different than subs and hoagies anywhere else. It's that "regular" grinder that is the distinctive one.
When I was last in CT, I had a really good grinder at Mystic Pizza Two, in No. Stonington, CT. Its a second store to the now famous Mystic Pizza in CT.
Oh, and a very popular but regionally limited one is called a Speidie (pronounced like Speedy). It is extremely popular in its region but somehow doesn't spread out from the Binghamton, NY area.
nate... · 16 years, 10 months ago
Dude, yeah, speidies ROCK!!
I used to have my sister get me speidie sauce so I could make 'em at home... back when she lived in binghamton.
Cali · 16 years, 11 months ago
i say sub. but now that im away at college in a diff. part of NY everyone says hero and they laugh at me. but its ok b/c apparently i say a lot of words wrong.
Although subs doesn't sound foreign to me either.... but... I'll almost always call them grinders out of habit.
even if I go to subway, (which I avoid) I order a grinder. :)
lawrence · 16 years, 11 months ago
what's interesting is that 'sub' is not a regionalism at all, but a generic name for the type of sandwich based on its shape. there are really only a few places that have specific names for them.
that said, I'll always call them hoagies and cheesesteaks (hoagies are mostly cold, cheesesteaks are hot, and sometimes don't have steak - the important distinction, at least, is that a cheesesteak is NOT a hoagie), as my primary exposure to them was in Philadelphia. damn, I need to get back to Lee's (or Pat's, or Geno's). It's been over three months...
Josh Woodward · 16 years, 11 months ago
I think of a sub as being able to be hot or cold, but a grinder is baked.
iPauley · 16 years, 11 months ago
...it's fun to make tease a guy at work who's last name is Hoag by calling him Hoagie Roll. :-P
Michael (foof) Maki · 16 years, 11 months ago
It's funny, because while I was vaguely aware of Sub Sandwiches beforehand, I never had one (and thus, rarely referred to them) before Subway moved into my area around my Junior year in High School.
So, after that, they were subs by default.
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