Poll: So, how was Revenge Of The Sith?

"who gives a rats ass"?

*shakes head*

I'm just amazed people still watch this after how much everyone hated the first two.

(which is not even taking into account the fact that I think the whole series is garbage..... I'm speaking in terms of what I've heard from fans.)

One word for you, m'love:

EWAN

And that's pretty much the only reason I saw all three.

Er... *doesn't vote, as she doesn't know which option would cover "I won't have a chance to see it until at least next weekend if not later."*

That is sort of my vote but I don't know when I'll be seeing it. I never saw episode 2 and I think I better catch up with that first.

Same here.
I hope I'll see it this week, but I haven't yet.

*bad geek*

It looks better than the last two, which shouldn't be hard. Although I did enjoy II a bit. It wasn't a great movie, but it was entertaining.

I haven't seen the first two, so I don't expect to be watching the third any time soon.

I can't be interested in something if it's popular. I don't quite know why, I'm just kinda strange. It's like: if everyone else is falling onto the bandwagon, I must be strong and resist the idea that whatever it is, is cool. I usually see movies a few years late.

For some reason this doesn't affect my music buying at all, but maybe that's because I don't go for the uber-popular artists and groups anyway. I'll be getting harry potter once it's in paperback or from the library.

because popularity is an indicator of quality? true, not everything that's popular is good, and not everything that's good is popular, but some things have truly earned their popularity.

would you say the same thing if Moxy Früvous were known and loved by millions?

Moxy who?

i used to have this complex too but it turns out i was missing out on a lot of cool shit. Harry Potter being one of the major ones. for years i assumed it was crap because everyone loved it. then my mother told me she couldnt make it past the third page and i figured i'd give it a shot. because our entertainment opinions are completely opposite, except for the TV show Soap. :P

i'll even proudly announce that i own and love the new system of a down album. speed metal + accordian = 0wnz.

yeah, where's the "I have a life and will wait at least a couple of weeks before seeing it, if at all." option.

ya'll are brutal!

i didn't like episode II. episode I was...well, at least enjoyable for one sitting, but when i tried to watch it again i was like "um. no, thanks."

so i was weary about going to see III but i'd heard it was relatively redeemable.

so we went to see it last night, and it was *definately* redeemable. there were some serious geek-out moments for fans of the original series. the storyline moved a little faster than the others, and all the dark stuff was great. everyone loves the dark side.

well. okay. i do :D

Wary. Weary means tired.

oops! you're right.� sorry. i must've been weary when writing that. :D

I've seen it twice already, and I'll probably be going again so I can see it in digital projection. and if they put out an IMAX version, I'll definitely go to see that.

There's a very good reason this is the only one of the prequels in the IMDB top 250.

it so made me want to run home and watch A New Hope, which i don't own. the tape as eaten.

are the DVDs as terrible as i've heard?

heh. I actually did watch A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back this weekend, too. :)

they could be better, but they're not that awful. I mean, my main issue, as it has always been, is that Han should shoot Greedo before Greedo can shoot at Han. Empire is mostly unchanged, and the changes are for consistency (like the Emperor, for example) more than anything. Jedi was the most butchered, but since it was also the least good of the three to begin with, I suppose it's all right. :)

yeah, i went on amazon and read what the differences were, and i decided they're not so bad that i wont buy them. esp since i'm dying to watch them now :D imma pick them up soon.

hmmmm. buy them now, you should not. a six DVD box set, the future may hold.

but watch them now i want to! care not about 6 disc set do i!

patience, you must have. if you buy it now, enjoy it you could. but impatience and hurry, paths to the dark side are.

speak not to her as if a child she is, yoda!

(and where's the option for, "who cares about revenge of the sith when my newsradio dvds will be arriving soon?")

when nine hundred years old you reach, as a child everyone will seem.

the dark side, i enjoy. said that earlier, i did. listening, master yoda is not! :D

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firefox, it could be. in IE�works fine, it does.

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a mistake, i have made. tired of talking like yoda, i am. to my post before yours, it points.

That was... quite a movie.

However, I was distracted for half of the film because of the small children behind me.

They were perfectly behaved, but I was very worried about how this movie would affect them. Seriously. Those images freaked me out. The oldest of the kids was no older than seven.

As they were leaving I said to Doug, just loud enough for the dumbass parents to hear, "God, Doug... who would bring kids to see a film like this? The smallest amount of research would tell anyone with any sense of parental responsibility that this isn't a movie that you bring your six-year-old to see."

Yeah. I'm a cowardly dipshit.

we saw parents bring little 8 year olds to Team America: World Police. I wish i was kidding.

that being said, the obnoxious teenagers behind me at ep III werent any better. they were holding my (and john's) reclining seat upright with their feet and kicking it periodically.��and i was sitting next to a constant wrapper crinkler.

*stabs in face*

but it has puppets!

that means it's for KIDS!

*headdesk*

yes! puppets!

...that puke and screw and say "now suck my cock."

awesome!

I saw parents taking children as young as maybe 5-6 to South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut. Now that's grounds for child abuse in my opinion.

i didnt see any kids, but i recall two teenagers behind us leaving halfway through because, and i quote, "musicals are gay."

well, maybe they meant that they wanted to see a musical, because Star Wars wasn't gay enough for them?

no, no, the teenagers left the South Park movie, not star wars :D

I don't know. A lot of it comes down to the kids themselves. It might affect some kids, but I know I saw things like this when I was sixish. Sure, it was creepy, but it didn't even give me nightmares (those came from Rice Krispys commercials).

The only part that I found visually disturbing was Vader's immolation. Sure, people lost their heads/hands (lots of hands), but those were either off screen, or bloodless (heat will do that). Most of the violence was fairly cartoony.

The parents might have been clueless, or they might have known their kids could handle it.

Still, I'm surprised what a big deal people made of this one getting a PG-13 rating. The geek sites were all taking it as a good thing (as was I), but all of the local news reports sounded shocked. They reported it as if Bambi II got a PG-13 movie. If it were around back then, or if it were newly released today, I'd be willing to bet Empire would be PG-13 too.

I liked it. A lot. My biggest beef, though, is that I didn't believe the love story at all. The love story plays a very integral role to pretty much everything, and without the chemistry between Anakin and Padme, a lot of the movie suffered. Still, I'd call it definitely the best of the prequels and at least rivaling the original trilogy.

well, yeah, it's because there's a huge disparity between the acting abilities of Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen. I think she was fine as Padme, but they could have got someone much better to be Anakin. You know, maybe someone who would do more than just read his lines off a card, but would actually show some sort of emotion.

Actually, I think he did a lot better in RotS. He works much better as a brooding and angry man than a whiny and frustrated boy. Still, he can't do love scenes, and Natalie Portman can't do them with him.

Yeah, he's much better evil than he is whiny.
That might be a character thing though, because it was a bit unsettling to hear Darth Vader mope. Even if for only a moment.

although you had to love the cheezy "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!" :D

Brooding and angry? They should have gotten David Boreanez.

Natalie Portman phoned her performance in. Hayden Christensen improved in my opinion, but still is too wooden, and both of them were crippled by the horrible dialogue.

I dunno. I thought her delivery of her lines to Anakin at the very end was pretty convincing. Actually, I thought that whole scene was one of the best acted in the whole prequel trilogy, by everyone in it.

Sheryl just reminded me to add this
*Here there be spoilers*
Overall, I liked it.
The dialogue was actually worse than I expected.
(Anakin outright saying "well, not from my point of view" had me cringe the most) but I wasn't going for great dialogue.
The first half was alright. I didn't quite get the point of General Grievous. He just seemed to be a bit of a place-holder (and why does a robot, even if it has a slightly organic face, need a cape?) but it was nice eye candy.

The mechanical CGI was good this time around. I still had problems with the attempts at organic things (I stand by puppet Yoda), but it wasn't distracting either.

The second half was much better. I thought most of the lose ends were tied up fairly well, the transition to the late-70s sci-fi look helped bring the two trilogies together, and it was just an entertaining movie from there on out.

One thing I didn't understand was Obi-Wan's apparent confusion over Anakin going bad. Not that he should have seen it coming, but when he kept yelling "you were supposed to bring balance to the force". In killing most of the Jedi, that's exactly what he did. That's the kind of thing I'd expect Obi-Wan to pick up on.

But that's really just a nitpick ;-)

I will say one thing in favor of Hayden Christensen. In the right light, particularly in the lava pit, he looked like Luke Skywalker's father. That's something I wasn't expecting.

Well, I can't help you on the cape.

But from what I've read, Greivous isn't a robot. He's a cyborg, built around... someone's remnants. Speculation is he was a prototype for the technology that gave us the Darth Vader we know and love.

-- Pauley

Yeah, I noticed a flash of flesh under the helmet.
That was good because, up until then, it was driving me nuts that a robot was coughing ;-)

or how about the fact that hayden christensen in a couple of scenes SOUNDED like luke skywalker's father?

or the fact that obi-wan had a couple of moments where i had to double-take to realize that it wasn't, in fact, sir alec guiness?

in terms of obi-wan's confusion, i had to think about it. obi-wan was young when he was told about the balance to the force thing. you're correct: he did bring balance. or rather, i suppose he will ultimately when he drops his boss down a pit three movies later. from obi-wan's point of view (he likes that phrase), "balance" meant something beneficial to the light-side i would suspect. he outright says that anakin was supposed to destroy the dark side, not join it. that's not exactly what the prophecy said, was it? (:

i think about this crap too much. i should be playing guitar...

-= george =-

Well, we never actually hear the exact prophecy, do we? I mean, From I and II, all we get is "The Chosen One will bring balance to the Force," but in III, there is a lot of talk about how "balance" means destroying the Sith. I propose an archealogical excavation of such Force-infused planets as Coruscant, Korriban, Yavin IV, and Dagobah to find more evidence. Or just use Google.

see, I wonder if Anakin really was the chosen one, or if the prophecy referred to Luke.

I don't think two Jedi and two Sith is exactly balance - for one, the Sith are more powerful, and for two, the Jedi are really neither good nor evil, so alone they are already balanced. One could even argue that balance is the very nature of a Jedi.

So by saving Anakin and allowing him to destroy the Emperor, Luke is the one who truly fulfills the prophecy.

�for one, the Sith are more powerful

are they? or do they just choose to use the evil powers? like dumbledore vs. voldemort. is voldemort more powerful because he chooses to use his dark powers?

i think yoda would be quite capable of doing all the things darth sidious can do, he just doesn't :P

I think that would qualify as making them more powerful. What good is an ability if you don't ever use it? Yoda might as well not even be able to shoot lightning from his fingertips if he never intends to do so.

right but is power a measure of abilities or actions?

Well, as far as who can overthrow whom, I'd say actions. Abilities are nothing if you don't act on them.

So I think the Sith have more ability to maintain power and prevent the Jedi from destroying them, because they're willing to use everything they can to keep their power. I think Yoda could have destroyed Palpatine, but only through a means he would have considered un-Jedi-like.

hm, true, in the same way anakin destroyed dooku.

*ponders* although, oskar schindler thinks differently. "Power is when we have every justification to kill, and we don't."