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Poll: What do you eat with your phosphate?

hero 2 (3%)
grinder 6 (9%)
hoagie 5 (8%)
sub 46 (71%)
submarine 2 (3%)
poor boy 2 (3%)
torpedo 2 (3%)
   Discussion: What do you eat with your phosphate?
*joolee* · 20 years, 2 months ago
thank you. it is a hoagie. don't even try to say it isn't because it is and you know it is! so there! :)
Mollie · 20 years, 2 months ago
I like the fact that there are regional differences in the names that we have for things like sandwiches and soft drinks. I think it gives our culture character. I don't think that any name is better than another. But I still voted for "Sub" (because that's what I call it) and "sodey pop" (Not because that's what I call it, but because it's so darn funny.)
lawrence · 20 years, 2 months ago
I still think the words still all refer to slight variations in the sandwiches. although "submarine" and "sub" and, to some degree, "torpedo" simply refer to the shape of the bread that they all seem to share.

also, as a result, submarine makes the most sense, since the others appear to just be arbitrarily created words and don't describe the product.

that said, I still voted for hoagie because that's what they are in Philadelphia, where they make the best ones. :)

Jºnªthªn · 20 years, 2 months ago
if I drink an egg cream instead of a phosphate....?
danced with Lazlo Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Whoo hoo! Right on Egg Creams!!!
emilie is CRANKY · 20 years, 2 months ago
ohhhh, riiiiight :D i'm glad someone pointed this out, or i'd've still been here two weeks from now going, 'phosphate? hero? whaaat?'
danced with Lazlo Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Phosphate, I believe, is a milkshake. I learned that word from The Music Man when Shirly Jones sits down in the ice cream shop and asks for a "Strawberry phosphate, please." I turn to my mommy and say "What the hell is a phosphate?" Sounds poisonous if you ask me.
Bruce Rose · 20 years, 2 months ago
Oddly enough, these are different. Have you ever had a sub that was baked? How about a grinder that wasn't baked? This isn't another pop vs. soda... and Grinders win out, no matter your regional differences.
sheryls Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
i'm with Bruce.

at least, in toledo, we have subs, but grinders come from Mancinos. (at least, the best ones in town do) and they're baked. yum. yum yum, the grilled chicken grinder is to die for.
Josh Woodward Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
i'll third this one. they're "subs" in ohio, but our local grinder shop (bellacinos) is extra yummy. and yes, they're baked.
nate... Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Huh.. that's the first I've heard of grinders being specifically hot.... you have to ask for them hot around here if you want it.
But, it's always been grinders for me..... though subs is acceptable.

And, sandwiches in a wrap were always "strollers".
sheryls Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
hey! i'm a sandwich in a wrap!

is that like a diamond in the rough?

oh. wait. st*R*oller.

well, that's how most Telemarketers pronounce it.
nate... Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
ooo! A sheryl wrap?
boy, this discussion is getting racey!
A girl named Becca Back · 20 years, 2 months ago that, like, a date?
Mollie Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Well I can't speak about non-baked grinders, but I've had *plenty* of baked subs. I worked in a place where we baked subs.
Melinda J. Beasi · 20 years, 2 months ago
I eat a sub, though I'm in grinder country now, so I've learned to say that in order to be understood.

Andrea Krause Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Bah, screw that! :) I'm a subber in a grinder country and I never bow down! People understand sub just fine, especially with the insertion of Subway into our region. Fight the power! Stand up for your sub roots! (Uh. Um. But still say soda. *grin*)

nate... Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Yeah, people around here pretty much all understand sub.

However, three demerits for mentioning Subway in a discussion about food..... that is SO not appropriate.
*joolee* Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
HEY! I work at subway, punk. C'mon! You startin'? ;)
nate... Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
No, I'm sure it's fine to work there.... but subway is to grinders what Taco Bell is to mexican food.

*joolee* Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
:p *thhhpppbbbbttt*
nate... Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
oh you KNOW it's true.
*joolee* Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
no way, yo! Subway doens't sell ground up F-grade meat! The stuff is pretty darn good and not as health-murdering as taco bell. And when I make them, there is NOTHING better. NOOOOOOOOOTHHHHHHHHHHHHHIN! =-O Speaking of which, I'm totally going home tomorrow and making myself a sandwich there. :D
Melinda J. Beasi Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
they understand, but they giggle. at least the ones at my job do. :)
Andrea Krause · 20 years, 2 months ago
Why do so many polls forget an "other" or "none of the above" option? :) What about people like our foreign friends? :)

-AK, makin' trouble as usual
Josh Woodward Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Not happy with the poll questions or options? Then let's see you do better, really! Suggest a poll!

Andrea Krause Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
Hey, I do all the time! Shup! :)
nitsita Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
*chuckle* I'd have to be considered "foreign" then, cause we always go get "subways".... "Heille, on s'en va chercher du subway". True 'nuff, we don't have any other place to get things like that. *shrug* the one's at the caf are nasty, too.

zil · 20 years, 2 months ago
oOwe all live in a roast beef submarine, a roast beef submarine, aroast beef submarineOo
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 20 years, 2 months ago
Hero is my first choice but sub or submarine sandwich doesn't sound foreign.

Now here's the question why didn't I get credit for this question? I put it in the discussion on the soda poll?
Josh Woodward Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
polls need to be submitted from here to go into the bin. whoever submits the idea from there is the one who gets the name. :-)
goovie is married! Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
because josh knew that everyone hates you, and no one would answer if they knew it was your poll? :)
k-rock · 20 years, 2 months ago
i prefer sammich!!! i manage a sub shop, but eat grinders every day. so there!
nate... · 20 years, 2 months ago
isn't it "po boy" I've never seen "poor boy" even though I know that's the origin...
Kevin - King of WiFi Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
it's po boy... but all the po boy's i've ever seen around here were really just open faced sandwhiches, and always baked... and even so... it's still sub :0)
Chaya Papaya Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
oddly enough, i've actually seen it written poor boy...but only in one place, the college dining hall...and that hardly counts as the authority on all...
danced with Lazlo · 20 years, 2 months ago
Everyone now is familiar with the use of term Sub because of the popularity of the Subway sandwich restaurant chain. Jian would call this an appalling case of cultural homogenization. I have hotten used to saying sub because the only place I generally eat such sandwiches now is at Subway, but for this poll I voted Hero because that's what the meatball sandwich at Grabsteins Deli in Canarsie Brooklyn was called. That's my heritage and I'm sticking to it. Hmph.

Oh, about the sub <-> subway thing... I don't know if that's true. It's just a speculative theory, but it made my argument sound good and gave me an excuse to sneak in some fruvous content, eh?
soul groove feline · 20 years, 2 months ago
ya know, that makes me wonder what Jian calls it. I bet even *he's* been homoginized on this one. :)

In Toronto and surrounding cities, I can only ever recall eating aformentioned sandwich at 4 places...Subway, Mr. Sub, Sub Xpress, and Quizno's Subs. All these places seem to have a common theme with their names...everyone I know here calls it a sub. To me, the word 'Hoagie' sounds kinda like a form of mucus. And I've never heard of anyone calling it a grinder, torpedo, or hero. Ah, sheltered Canadian.
danced with Lazlo Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
heee... yeah, hoagie...
What? Even Jian? He who is *never* inconsistent falling into the very cultural traps he so adamantly rails against? Perish the thought. ;P
And about being a sheltered Canadian... well, the only culture you people have is gotten from us through the corporate filters which carry it over the boarder. That's why you guys are so obsessed with our "evil corporate empire"... cause that's where you get all your stuff from. :)

Again, it just sounded good. Lets pretend like we're actually having a debate! or... something... :D
lawrence · 20 years, 2 months ago
ok, so, given this discussion, I was getting kind of hungry for one of these sandwiches. unfortunately, in the DC area, we're pretty much stuck with the chains, which means either Subway or Quizno's. keep in mind, though, that neither of these places invented the term "sub," so I hardly think the word's popularity can be considered cultural homogenization. the chains used the word originally because they knew people would recognise it and know what it meant.


since I hate Subway, I decided to try Quizno's today, as there is also one walking distance from my apartment. and I found it surprisingly good. not special, by any standards, since chain food is still largely uncreative and non-unique, but quite tasty, which, in the end, is what really matters. and more surprising, still, was the fact that they didn't skimp on any part of the sandwich (I couldn't even fit my mouth around the whole thing, and that was after it had been wrapped and unwrapped) and that it looked remarkably like it did in the picture, considering it had been pressed down when wrapped.

now, if I lived in Philadelphia or any other place with good local sandwich culture, what I did would be considered a criminal act. but here, we have to take what we can get. :)

nate... Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
yeah, I've heard good things about quizno's... even though I've never even SEEN one personally.

But, it should definitely be a crime to get a sandwich from subway.
Worst food EVER.
I'd sooner eat from McDonalds... at least they have the distinct flavor of CRAP food... rather than no flavor at all.
lawrence Back · 20 years, 2 months ago
I'm not sure about that - I think I'd pick Subway over Taco Bell, for example. my main complaints at Subway are that there's no "default" way to get a sandwich, so you always have to choose what you want on it, which isn't good for those of us who aren't great at constructing sandwiches. and that the sandwiches are so thin and soggy. the Quizno's bread stayed nice and crisp, but soft enough to not be crumbly, the entire time.
Jack Karle · 15 years, 3 months ago
I've lived in MI, PA, and FL, and traveled the country and the world for 25 years. Hoagie is what they were called in eastern PA, unless they were meatball, then they were grinders. In MI, they were subs, no matter what they were made of. In FL, since there are few native anymore, they are called what the folks called them back home. Europe calls them subs, and the Asians just look at you funny no matter what you call them!


"Phosphate" is an old term for a soft drink. Back in the day, phosphate salts were used to give the "fizz" to fountain drinks, since infusing them with carbon dioxide was not an easy option at the local soda fountain.

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