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Girl's Baby Names?
sheryls
· 20 years ago
What are your favorite girl's baby names? My sister is having a baby girl and they've only picked out boys names o.O they cant decide on a girl's name. Their last name is Miller, so it's not like they're terribly restrictive as to what they can name her. i dont know if she's looking for suggestions or not, but if she asks, i want to be armed with fantastic names. name away! 
That reminds me too much of Imogene. :) As in Imogene Coca. I've always liked Stephanie Katherine Laura Alexis Elizabeth I'm very vanilla. :) 
Old skool comedienne who worked with Sid Caesar on TV. http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1192/Mptv/1192/0096_0032.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Coca,%20Imogene
Damn....what's the play with an Imogen in it? I think it's something by Shakespeare...
Cymbeline? 
Luthien, it is from Tolkien. Arwen is nice too.
OF courese there is always the old standby 7. 
i *heart* Lilly.
*wants to snuggle your Lilly* :D I'm also quite fond of Julie. Other than that, I'm pretty old-skool like Andrea is. Stephanie, Caroline, Elisabeth, Susannah. Regina's nice, but very Catholic-sounding to me. :D 
different pronunciation, tho. Regina the girl's name is "Re-jean-a" not re-jine-a. at least wherever i've encountered it.
it means Queen in Latin, and is often used in reference to Mary. as in Regina Coeli (Queen of Heaven) and other permutations that are frequently employed as names for churches, shrines and so forth.
yeah.� i kinda realised about the different pronunciation thing *just* as�i was a-posting that one. still, i think the name might be kind of tainted for now, because it was one of the lead characters in mean girls...blah.� stupid, stupid movie that made me want to�marinate my brain in bleach for a day or two afterwards.
Stephanie, Caroline, Elisabeth, Susannah.
see, i'm biased 'cause it's my name, but caroline is nice. and it's not a name everyone has. the only problem is when people say it wrong and go "carolin" or "carolyn." it's *line* like fine or dine. anyway, yeah. also, robin, but it's kinda...old fashioned. but it works for girl or boy. and susannah. because it's cool to be able to have a nickname...nothing really shortens up caroline. an old friend of mine used to call me 'car,' pronounced like you're saying my name normally, only without the -oline. not like an automobile. and alice! i like that name too. 
carol's.....no. carol's too.....blah. it sounds like a secretary.
my grandmother and sister are both named carol. it drives me insane that my name rhymes with my sister's (i never knew Grandma Carol) it makes us sound like twins. my sister carol always went by Annie� (and is the subject of this thread ;) and when she married officially changed her name from Carol Ann (how poltergeist!) to Annie Carol.
I have an older cousin named Carol Ann. Soooooo 1950's/early-'60's, that whole "something-Ann" baby-naming scheme.
(says a Lori Ann. :P )
it's sort of a family tradition on my mom's side to give the middle names Ann or Mae - we have Ruth Ann, Katherine Ann, Kelly Ann, Kristi Ann, Carol Ann, Carol Mae, Tracy Mae, Diedre Mae, Greta Mae (who is actually a dog but i'm reaching for the Maes, as i cant think of any more ATM).. they broke it with me (Sheryl Jean)�so i have 0 intention of keeping it up :)
my mother is Patricia Ann and my sister is Lynette Ann but I get to be a Ren�e. :)
um ... Allie Mae, maybe? :D
(I think it's so cute that Annie has an Allie ... they go together very well without being Frick and Frack.)
as can Carrie, or Caro, or Carey/Cari.
as for Caroline, I utterly agree with fhdc's Caroline on pronunciation. It is much prettier with the long "ine" rather than Carolyn, imo. *hopes she hasn't offended too many Carolyns*
eh...i'll stick with my full name. :)
and yeah. plus, i don't see how people think my name is pronounced like Carolyn....it isn't spelled that way! carolyn has its own spellings...caroline is -line for a reason. *huff* sometimes people ask, which is good. other times they don't. my math teacher just realized my name was pronounced like that a month ago. actually, when i got my national junior honor society certificate, they spelled it "Carolyn." I mean, come on. there has to be a record of how my name is spelled somewhere. of course, they put "Edwin" on Eowyn's, and Brianna on Brian's. So I wasn't the only one.... :P
I've always pronounced caroline the way you don't like.
hmm. it's not that i don't like it....it's just weird and a little annoying, because caroline is the only way i've knkown my name. and its just like "huh? are you talking to me?" :)
I know the feeling. My name is pronounced like On-dreea so even if the other pronunciations are more common it feels weird when people use them to address me.
Which is why Germany lost two world wars.
I told you, "Whatever you do don't mention the war!" Excuse him, He's from Barcelona This excursion into multiple personalities has been brought to you by Amanda by the Sea.
I have a friend Caroline at school who gets very upset when called "Carolyn." Unfortunately I am part of the problem because my middle name is Madeline but I pronounce it like "Madelyn" except I don't think that's really a name.
:)
> I have a friend Caroline at school who gets very upset when called "Carolyn." ���� Well that's how I pronounce my Madeline's name!�� (Madelyn) ����� The only time I've ever heard it with a long "I" was in the Madeline books.� And I was never sure if it was really pronounced that way or if they altered it to rhyme with "two straight lines." ���� Apparently either pronunciation is valid. 
I think author Ludwig Bemelmans altered both spelling and pronunciation of the name "Madeleine" (his wife's name) to rhyme with "lines". But he was an Austrian anyway. :D
In French Madeleine is pronounced "Madelehn". (I don't think the French know from "Madeline" as a variant of the name, but if they did they would pronounce it "Madeleen".) Caroline in French is pronounced "Caroleen", with a shorter "ee" sound than North American English speakers are used to using. So to most of our ears the French pronuniciation sounds more like "Carolyn" than "Caroline" with a long I. Still, I like the long I in Caroline. For Madeline/Madeleine I have no preference, and would pronounce according to how they're spelled, unless the person bearing the name disagrees with me. :D (Shall we discuss British v. American "Lisa" next? :D )
Well, in contrast to Caroline I don't have any issues pronouncing Madeleine/Madeline like "Madelyn"...
Jen Cass has a song I love dearly called Madeleine and she pronounces it Madelyn, too :) Shall we discuss British v. American "Lisa" next? There's a difference? *ducks*
(Shall we discuss British v. American "Lisa" next? :D ) Then there's always the whole Chris/Kris/Christine/Kristin/Kirsten/Chrisey/Kristy pit we could fall into 
see, my french name is "caroleeen" (that's phonetic spelling.....) and my french teacher, not knowing a ton about french, wouldn't know the caro thing...she calls the Sophie girl Soph, though. but that sounds odd to me.
my french teacher is just....annoying. basically, her class is total immersion, ie she speaks french all the time, writes homework papers in french, makes us write notes in french...she's a french nazi. except, of course, when she wants to assign us homework or a project. then she's quite the little english speaker. :P
I'm a huge fan of the French 'Caro'... and that are so many word games you can make with it when you're the least bit witty ;D And I've gotten so used to the 'Soph' that it sounds just natural to me. And you want a name you can abbreviate? Nitsa. I will NOT let people call me 'nit' (cause that's not how my name is pronounced) and the only derivative I got was 'neets'... which lately degraded into 'sneets'.. and then 'snorts'... 
Soph sounds totally weird...
it so does....she says it like "soap" only with an f on the end... and my french teacher stalked me at the library last summer. whenever i went there, she would be there too, and she'd come up behind me and speak in french. and i didn't know what she was saying....
Maybe you should take french, then...
maybe i'm already in honors french, thank you very much. ;) it's still my worst subject tho....it's been my one of my lowest grades for the past 3 quarters. :(
didn't you know they have an invisible "e" on the end of their names?
(it goes with your silent "h".)
We call my friend Sophie Soph and I think it's cute. :) But my friends are big on one-syllable nicknames - I'm Bec, Lisa is Lis, Dixie is Dix....most of the boys already have one-syllable names, lucky them.
And immersion is a good way to learn a language...
*giggles*
i'm a truck in England, but. PLEASE. don't shorten me to one syllable and call me "Lor". *loathes* *snarls*
he's not evil, just misunderstood and marginalized by a scientific, positivist worldview. :D
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i agree to some extent....but she expects us to speak only in french as well, making it difficult to say anything that makes any sense at all. plus, she explains things "en francais" and then we go into groups...and we're all like "so...what're we doing again?" however, she tends to be long-winded and wastes a lot of class time letting us tell what we did over the weekend, etc. and she does a scary cockroach impression...o.O
Hey, I know Tavie, too!� I guess any big fan of KitH (who also reads the newsgroup) does, hehe. Small world indeed!
is she irish? i hate the trend of people picking irish names cos "they sound cool" when they and their kids aren't irish. like, my little brother's name is liam. because he's of irish descent. and it's the irish form of his grandfather's name. and when we were growing up, he was the only liam in, like, the whole city, and no one knew how to pronounce his name. and now liam is a trendy name, and that bugs me somehow. it's all connected to the fetishization of irish culture in america and lots of other things that really bother me, but other people explain them so much better, so i'll shut up.
Would you prefer if people were uninterested in the culture? That's not written snarkily...I'm actually curious. Because it seems like a lot of cultures get appropriated and twisted a bit but what is worse...to have that happen or to have the culture ignored or pushed aside and disregarded.� And yes, I know, the best option would be a middle ground where it's respected but not mickey mouse-ized. :)� But we seem to be a country of extremes, not middle ground, so that leaves me curious about what you would deem the greater evil. Hehehe when I reread that it kinda reminds me of the question of a band going from obscure and dear to the hearts of a few to being huge and adored by the masses but in the process twisting what's at the core. Not that that was actually a question. Allow me to stop babbling. :)
no, i think there needs to be a middle ground. but i don't think there's any danger of irish culture being ignored or disregarded as long as, to most americans, irish culture means "ooooh, pretty names and leprechauns and faeries dancing around" and "oooooh, DRINKING!" and potato jokes. :P
Siobhan? Now that really is bias.� Mairead is my sister's name and very pretty.�� If I remember my phonetic alphabet�I will try and do the pronunciation.� I also really like Sinead (which sorts rhymes with Mairead if that helps!) Sian, Ciara, Niamph?� (pronounceed Neve) ooh Ishould be able to think of more after a Catholic school but it was mostly Siobhans there.� Mairead is more unusual and Sinead and Ciara more pretty I think!� I like Irish names and with� asurname like Miller it works alright, I will not however be able to hold onto it if I marry Fil as a Greek surnamegoes ver bad with Irish first names. 
I remember it as shiv-on, because her nic is smileyshiv, or something.
I sugested these names because I like them. they are mostly family names and I've always wanted to be healthy enough to have my own kids and I actually have this list in my physical diary from when I was like 11, but thats not looking like its going to happen so I thought maybe someone I know would use them.
I suggested them becuase they are beautiful, not to perpetuate the bastadrization of the irish culture. but thanks.
zil, i understand your reasoning, but i hope you understand mine, too. i knew i had a link to someone who says it better than i do, and it's here. #5 on the list. (actually, i think the whole thing is worth reading and on target, but i'm a cranky bitch, so ymmv.)
well, if you're saying it's not worth it, then why even mention it?
I meant that the snippiness wasn't worth and the argument wasn't worth upsetting you over or (eventhough I know we've never been really close I do like you and think of you as a friend) putting this between us as friends. I was trying to put thru that I was doing my best to not blow it up into a big thing. I'm sorry I hit a nerve. agree to dissagree? truce like?
agree to disagree. i definitely understand where you're coming from with this, and i'm sorry i got all high horsey about it.
a friend of mine claims she once knew a girl who was named "marijuana pepsicola" at birth.� in her parents defense, they spoke no english, had recently come to the states, and thought the words sounded pretty and american...and the girl picked out her own name when she got old enough to care, so that was alright. even if it is just urban legend, it's the fun kind that's worth repeating, i think.� possibly especially at people who are thinking of naming their kids things in other languages that they haven't properly researched, as an alternative to simply shooting them, because i hear that's illegal.
my mother named me Zilpha, it means frail shadow or something in hebrew(from what I know, which is admitedly very little). zilpha was also the haindmaden of rachel, blah blah. but am I jewish? no. do I think it was wrong to name me that? no. I think there are exceptions to what you're saying here.
shanaynay Mcfernendez sky Ajala is over the top. someone naming their child Erin, when they want it cause they like it seems fine to me. but I do understand your point... to a point.
i don't get upset at nonjewish people having what i think of as jewish names (i've heard of rivkas & shoshannas), i actually kind of think it's a compliment. (i might think differently if it was more common, but maybe not)
when i was younger, though, i got confused when anyone nonjewish was named judith or judah, cause those names are the root of "jew." but i understand that plenty of people like the bible :) 
my mom is jewish but her name is Kristi - figure THAT one out :P (ok, she's a convert. :P) my name, according to some sites, says the origin is unknown. some say it's English for Charity. (wtf?) i remember one site split it into two names, one of which was "precious" and "pale green stone" - which is odd, because my birthstone is emerald o.O
Well, the difference there is that your name is not merely Hebrew... it is Biblical, which is a whole other can of worms.
perhaps, to a point.
but c'mon. nations have been swapping names since people started traveling. mary which came from maria, which came from mariam/maria which came from miriam. the finns made it maaria, the irish made it maire, german and polish maja and the french marie. all of those forms started as a direct borrowing, which over time, changed it's sound and spelling to match the language of the people using it. ann, came from anne(french) came from hebrew, hannah, the irish turned it into aine sean came from john. the root for alanna, alan, came with the normans. if berget is an irish name, it started out as bridget, went other places and came back changed. maura developed in both ireland and italy/spain where it stems from latin. erin, is that REALLY an irish name? it's the anglicized form of EIREANN--which is irish. i mean, it's foolish for a parent to name their child something that other people aren't going to be able to understand, or read. but frankly, a whole lot of the european settlers in north america were irish. a lot of those names don't sound strange, they're just names. once a name has been around for long enough, isn't it fair to say it's "of irish origin"? some of these names have been hanging around north america for upwards of two hundred years. like the example of liam, my father is from newfoundland, we have liams dating way way back in the family, however, they've been there so long, and there's been so much intermarriage... well, no one i know of really associates that with our irish heritage, it's just a family name. i'm a quarter irish on my mother's side (her father immigrated) but if i were to name a child liam, it would have nothing to do with my irish roots. so. what i'm saying in a very long winded manner, is that people have been pilfering pretty names from other cultures since they started interacting. why is that so horrible now?
wow... I'm so glad that our tradition is to only name children in honor of family members. No excuses required.
I think you misunderstood. I didn't mean to imply that you are making excuses so much as I was expressing gratitude that whatever I name my children (if I ever get there) I won't have to worry about explaining myself or offending anyone's sensibilities (justifiably or not... I'm so totally not gonna get into this) because I'll be able to point to the ancestor after whom my child is named and not have to make any "excuses" (loaded word, sorry) for my choice.
Like... my name means "girl with golden hair." I don't have golden hair and I never have. I was named after my father's mother's cousin Gella who also didn't have golden hair, and was in turn named after some other ancestor who similarly didn't have golden hair. So it's valid, regardless of truth value. Also helps that it's a Jewish (Yiddish) name and, like, so am I.
i would like to note here that i have somewhat enviously admired your name since miss olive first mentioned you to me.� it is a good name, yupyupyup. not that emily's a *bad* name, and my mother had similar reasons to yours for picking it (after a relation, although also after the song emmie, by laura nyro), but one *does* get tired of turning around every five seconds in the grocery store because somebody's parent is yelling at a small blondething with the same name as you.� so.� this is me filing a request for a moratorium on kids named emily, at least for a generation or two. and i'm naming my firstborn child tate, regardless of gender, because it's a nice simple sound/spelling that people won't be too confused about, isn't painfully common, means "the cheerful", and is a good scottish-type name besides.� (and yes, i'm really of honest-to-god scottish descent, almost entirely all over,�so don't start on me about that, you big sillies.)
I disagree with #5. I just don't quite understand the harm. Paying tribute to the beauty in another culture by using something as a name doesn't seem that evil to me. Now if they don't look into what the name actually means and accidentally name their kid "evil babyeater" in another language because it sounds pretty...well then, yeah. Not really culturally responsible.� But I don't see how liking a name and finding out it means "pretty cloud" and naming your kid that is a bad thing. Should parents make their name lists and then go through them and cross out any names that don't come from their own family/culture? Should I not be named Andrea Renee because neither of them are German or Polish? I do understand wanting people to be more careful with how they choose to use something not of their culture...but I don't really understand the cultural "mine!"ism that makes it not even OK for them to set foot on that path. Anka Reinhilde Krause
I'd add Mavis, Ida, Edna and Gertrude to the "anything but" list. :P
Ida was my grandmother's name. Ida Leona. Never knew her, always thought the name was horrid.
My other grandmother's middle name was Gertrude. She hated it. She was like "I'm English and Welsh. There are so many NICE English and Welsh names. Why did I have to be saddled with Gertrude?" Of course, she was like that with a pleasant Welsh accent. :D And fortunately her first name was Constance, so she went by Connie, which she didn't mind at all. One Welsh name I used to hate, but I'm growing fonder of it, is Edith.
Smatts' Baby's Pics!
· 20 years ago
Well...funny thing...I actually have a baby name list of names that Matt or I like. The top on the girl list and the top on the boy list are names that we really like the most. We are set on Grace and Robert for middle names. Here's the Slawinski list!
Names for Girls: Lillian Grace Isabelle Olivia Emma Emily Adeline Amelia Autumn Names for Boys: Liam Robert Jude Landon Jakob Lukas Taylor Afton Andrew It's fun to make this kind of list! Susie :)
dirty life & times
· 20 years ago
my list of helpful names leans toward the hebraic :)
i like short names for girls: maya ruth (i like ruthie) adi tali lihi rhea
Samantha
· 20 years ago
M'not too keen on girls names.. My last name is miller, and I'm Samantha Eden. I know people would probably think me "trendy" for liking Irish names.. but I grew up in a rather celtic community, regardless of my heritage..but I thought I was Irish long before it became trendy! >:-O... *melodramatic huff*.. and I'm now living in the most celtic part of my state, Henderson Nevada. We even have the Las Vegas Celtic Society. We have celtic faires every year. It's pretty neat. I grew up in Salem Massachusetts... It was really prominent there. ..
but. .back to names.. I think for girls, I like -Piper -Siobhan -kyrie [either Keereeyay or Kyree.. either is pretty :)] -Morrigan -Nirvana [I have a friend named Nirvana.. it sounds good as a name :)] -Boys- -Donovan -Shannon [hey. It worked for R.Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon] -Gabriel -Julian -Pippin [I'll do it,too. Just wait till I have kids.] -Conor -Ian [even though guys with this name seem to be evil.] - 
true facts: Ann(e) and Car(r)ol(l) used to be English boys names, up until the 17th century or so.
Marie is often used as a male name in French, particularly as a middle name (ie, Jean-Marie).
that's odd. anne is a new testament (female) figure, right? i believe it comes from the hebrew hannah.
right. i think it's probably the Norman influence in England that masculinized Anne (just like Marie, although that never made it across the Channel as far as I know).
Anne, Elizabeth, and the several Marys (but particularly Miriam mother of Jeshua) would be the principal female figures in the New Testament. I guess they were highly enough revered in Europe that their names were considered suitable to give to Christian boys as well, although I don't know of any masculine use of Elizabeth. Note that Maria is still a common boy's middle name in Spanish, and was in German through the early part of the 20th century. (I'm thinking in particular of writer Erich Maria Remarque).
I can see the bunny
· 20 years ago
wow - I've kept a list of names for eons. I keep 'em around for writing and...questions like this. ;) Some of my favourite girl names...
Channing Alessandra Chandra Erin Adrianna Janthine Keldara Athaya Klarissa Lysandra Melisande Althea Rune Aria Medina Jessuan Chalice Lyta 
renita
· 20 years ago
renita
no really, i like my name a lot, even though my parents picked it because it looked and sounded cool/pretty :P birget(swed), birgit(scan), bridget(irish), brigitta (germ) almost any form of the name is nice. though, i'm partial to the "ir" forms over "ri" forms mia nadine adel gillian kasha renata
i've loved the name renata ever since i read one hundred years of solitude. but most people here couldn't get away with "remedios" on the other hand.
when i first saw your name on fhdc years ago, I thought it *was* Renata. then I learned otherwise.
although I prefer Renate -- with the ending "e" -- to Renata.
yeah, i know. i had 4 years of German, during the first of which we all took German names. I was way jealous of the girl who got Renate.
*snork*
but no fair, when nate's not here to make a witty rejoinder. on the other hand, that means we can make LOTS of nate-renate jokes. :P
Hehehe I was looking at pet adoption website to see kittens available in the state and one listing was a little girl kitten named "renita". I remember thinking that if we ever adopted that one it'd probably be�a rare time we didn't change it to a name of our own choosing, in honor of you. :) Paul's sister's real name is Patti...but for many years now has insisted on being called Kasha.
Kasha? That's a name? Really?
Sorry... Kasha to me is and will always mean kasha varnishkes... buckwheat groats and bowtie pasta
yeah , but kasha IS buckwheat groats.
kasha varnishkes -- groats 'n' farfalle noodles in butter -- yummy stuff. (ETA: as, I see, Gella and Leah already have discussed. augh. Sorry. This discussion is LONG, and I'm missing things ... )
You can't have kasha varnishkes in butter... how you gonna eat that with brisket?
hee. the version I'm familiar with isn't kosher -- it's Moosewood. :D
(and it does say "butter or margarine". I'm just like, dwd. butter on everything.)
....People eat things called "groats"?
....Things called "groats" exist? That being said, she should name her kid Groat.
It's a girl!
· 20 years ago
Madeline is the best girl's name ever!!
Ahem... well anyway, I quite like it. some other favorites of mine: Lillian Emily (although admittedly rather trendy now) Penelope Ariana (although the trouble with this is that it apparently can be pronounced either AREEAHNA or AIREEANNA - but it's a different meaning and origin depending on the pronunciation and thus possibly unnecessarily complicated)
I was under the impression that Fiona is Scots. As is Catriona, another fave of mine. (pronounced like Katrina/Katryna, but with a shorter, elliding "i" sound).
Although Scots derives from Irish, the forms are distinct. Now I'm thinking of more names I love. Christina, Elena, Aileen, Moira, Gudrun, Amy, Liese, Liesl, Liseli (my second-cousin-once-removed's name, and I love it), Annika, Larissa, Katya ...
Although Scots derives from Irish, the forms are distinct. actually, the irish derive from the scots.��Their languages,especially. Scottish Gaelic is the true form.. Irish�Gaelic,�considering their varied dialects.. is actually the bastardized version.���THe Irish can't really even technically be considered Celts. That's for scottish highland men in kilts that go ravaging other countries and drinking the blood of the dead. so.. how celtic IS Ireland?
um, this contradicts everything scholarly I have read, that a large proportion of the forebears of Scotland's present inhabitants settled it out of Ireland, the rest of the genetic stock coming from the distinct native tribes (Picts, etc) that would (ed: also) have been Celtic. I didn't think "Celtic" or "Norse" or whatever their racial/linguistic identity was before they identified nationally as "Irish" or "Scots" mattered much in the context of baby names -- although maybe I'm mistaken and "Fiona" was brought to the area we now call Scotland by Ireland-originating adventurers.
Linguists do consider Irish as it is currently spoken to be one of the six extant Celtic languages, along with Breton, Welsh, Manx, Cornish, and Gaelic (Scots). Manx and Cornish are now nearly extinct. I must say I find it disturbing that your citation is a white-supremacy website affiliated with David Duke.
I would have to concur - the Irish are indeed Celts. Gaelic existing in Scotland was mostly due to invasion and settling by the Irish.
(Oh, and I do believe Fiona comes from Ireland. It's the feminine of Fionn - Fionn mac Cumhail is a mythical hero from Irish legend who became all-wise when he ate an enchanted salmon.)
oh wow -- I never made the connection between "Fiona" and "Fionn". *shakes head*. Thanks for pointing that out!
Heh, that's what years worth of genealogy does to a person. ;-)
It wasn't really an enchanted salmon, it was just lox on a bagel with a schmeer of cream cheese, everyone knows that brain food.
Well duh. All mythic lands have bagel. Where do you think the word "holy" comes from?
And Salmon was wise because he ate Hazlenuts. Although I can never remember with 100% certainty if the Salmon-as-Wise being due to Hazlenuts is from the Celtic mythology or another that features Salmon as a creature of wisdom. It's always more like 92% certainty.
*opens mouth to start spouting off random tidbits about ravens, then remembers this is so not a mythology topic* Er, I'll be back over somewhere else, now. 
i was just about to comment that you were misspelling Solomon. O.o
it's because of the hazelnuts in Celtic lore. the salmon lived in a pool under the hazel tree and ate its magical hazelnuts (hazel being the tree of wisdom. i've heard the salmon ate 7 of the nuts, 7 being a magic number.) Fionn didn't even eat the salmon -- he was cooking it for his druid teacher, burnt his thumb, stuck the thumb in his mouth to relieve the pain, and that was enough to confer the knowledge.
http://www.finnmaccool.com/WhoWasFinnMacCool.htm
I concur this is something I've read quite a bit about, I even have a old celtic calendar around with discusses each of the languages. Naming the languages might have been the very first in my series of trivia questions for valuable Gordonpoints.
And just for  something giant and blue Doesn't Fiona mean pickles?
Beth
· 20 years ago
Everyone really hates my choices for girls' names, but if I were to have three daughters, I would name them Alice, Wilma, and Ivy. In that order. People seem to especially have a problem with Wilma, but I think it sounds loving. I think I chose that name because of The Best Years of Our Lives.
ahhh, Wilma. I had such a thing for Wilma Flintstone. Then I realized it was totally ridiculous. She'd never leave Fred.
hkath
· 20 years ago
Lately I've been intrigued by Miriam and Circe.
It's strange: some names that were popular when we were kids are now way less common, like Jennifer, Julie, and others that it's too early for me to think of right now. One exception to that out-of-usage rule seems to be my name. Bleh. Too many kids named Katherine lately. Check this out for a laugh: Baby's Named a Bad Bad Thing
Most notably: Aquanetta
bwahaha! now I want to name my mythical daughter Aussimeggaskrunchspreia! Meg, for short.
SEE! I'm not the only one who has heard of the name Aquanetta.
Latrina's worse, though.
one might even call that a true "r" because it's trilled.
cnd/am english really only has a rhotic approximate ;) the german /r/ has a phonetic symbol that looks like an "r" the cdn/am english /r/ looks the same but flipped upside down. aside: reinhardt, ich finde es interessant dass du die "d" im "sound" nicht gesagt hast weil im Deutsch alle die Buchschreibe sehr wichtig sind. Oh i need to keep practicing my german, i'ma gonna forget it all >.< anyway, i would have expected you to say "sount" before saying "soun" (miss you)
I dunno, I feel like German drops a fair number of d's (and maybe other consonants?), though maybe only mid-word. Like, it would sound weird to me if the "d" in "gefunden" were articulated. I'm having trouble coming up with more examples, so maybe I'm just making this up.
hrm. where are the german speakers you know from?
because so far as i'm aware, the "d" in gefunden is articulated, just not as an "nd" consonant cluster. instead it hops over and and starts off the next syllable. so it's not "ge-fund-en" or "ge-fun-en" but rather "ge-fun-den". the "e" grabs it as an onset because german, like english, prefers onsets when available and particularly prefer an onset over a syllable-final consonent cluster. it actually happens a lot in german with the "-en" ending, if there's a word-root final consonant, the "-en" will grab it as an onset. sometimes even when it isn't a consonant cluster (though that gets a bit more regional--i'm not sure what the high german standard for that is)
Well, the ones I've heard speak the most are norddeutsher (Schleswig-Holstein), so that would probably be where I got it from if it's a regional thing. I also hear this phenomenon among other American non-native German speakers, most of whom spent time abroad in either Berlin or Mainz. Possible that in their case it's some kind of American accent thing (since I know we drop/soften lots of consonants) but in general the kids I'm thinking of have excellent pronunciation... Hmm.
Now that I think about it, I also hear the "e" in verb endings shortened quite a bit or "swallowed" (I feel like I used to know the real term for this, but no more). So, I dunno, "sagen" for instance would sound like "sag'n." I would assume that's a regional thing, and then it would account for this d-dropping thing because "-en" can't very well be an onset for a final consonant if the "e" is already dropped. :)
yah plat-deutsch has some different things going on. i don't know that much about it.
there is the phonomenon of "swallowing" the "e" creating some syllabic "n"s that's pretty common throughout in social speech (careful oratory type speech is different --same as in english) but i really am intrigued by the word internal "d" dropping, so the speakers you know would say "ge-fun-en"? because there's the well known german word-final devoicing. where "d"-> "t" and "g"->"k" and "b"->"p" and i suppose it's possible in some regions that progressed to a total deletion, but it still shouldn't happen in the envirment before the "-en" ending. then again, it could be it's own thing all together. anyway. i could speculate about this stuff forever, now i have to go focus on acquistition of syntax >.
I'd concur with all what you said.
My pronunciation would always be "ge-fun-den" and I'd never drop the "d" and I can't remember having heard it anywhere... Since I've almost lived in Hanover all of my life I shouldn't have an accent :) I only do word-final devoicing when speaking German. When speaking English my tongue works differently which might have the effect that I speak German with an English accent when rapidly changing languages :D
Not "ge-fun-en" so much as "ge-fun-n." I'm having trouble descibing it in writing...hmm. I mean, you can tell that there's supposed to be a "d" in there, because there's a sort of stop, but the "d" never really gets pronounced. I feel like I should be able to come up with something similar in English to explain what it sounds like... But perhaps not.
Am I making any sense? :)
i got teased when i moved to israel cause i couldn't pronounce miriam the hebrew way. it's how i got nicknamed "murm." :)
are now way less common, like Jennifer, Julie, and others that it's too early for me to think of right now.
really? i know *5* jennifers, and i think 3 or four julies...
I'm not talking about people our/your age, I'm talking about new babies being named Jennifer. I don't see that a lot. I see a lot of made-up names lately. I know a two-year-old named Dayja, for example. It's a beautiful name, and it fits her, and her mom is almost completely sane, but still... what the heck?
A coworker of mine has a litltle girl...I never found out how it was spelled but she said her name like "dayzhanay". And all I could think was "keep her away from french speaking countries!" :)
Bahahaha.
I bet she goes well with a croissant. :)
I think it's more like a sort-of phonetic spelling of "d�jeuner" which is French for lunch.
:)
*joolee*
· 20 years ago
I'd love to give my grrl my & m'mom's middle name- Theresa.
I wish my grandmother had a cool name, but alas, I wouldn't wish Bernice on my worse enemy. Others I like: -Caitlyn -Alexandra -Aliki -Brenna -Mallory (whoever can guess where I started liking this name from gets bonus points) -Lydia -Gwen (Gwendolyn, Guinevere) -Eden btw - when playing the 90s version of Trivial Pursuit, I had to answer what the most popular name of '95 or so was. I thought back that my cousin who was born then was named Emily. I was SO right. Rock, rock on! 
Ah, never read more than one of those and don't remember much. Ah well. :)
Abby I'm a civilian yay!
· 20 years ago
I babysat for the sweetest little girl whose name was Vina.
I love her name, it's kind of a tasteful revival of an older name that's not really used anymore. It's pronounced VINE-AH 
...Yeah, and people won't call her Vina Vagina when she's in elementary school.
I'm so glad my name doesn't rhyme with anything.
miriam delirium!
of course, that was my brother's. nobody at school was clever enough to come up with anything.
I was chrissy or kissyfur (damn you late 80s cartoon show!) before becoming a ChrisChin.
I think Willow and the Scoobies performed a ritual.
Yeah, but then they thread had to dig itself out from the bottom of the forum list.
There was no pain. No fear, no doubt, 'till they pulled me out. of For-ums. They pulled me out of Foorrr-ums. So give me something to post about! la-la-la-la-la Ok, I'll stop ;-) 
It looks to me like you forgot to use your friend the reply button there. What book?
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