guilty pleasures?

oh yeah... thoes CD's that you kind of keep out of the way. ones you might be slightly embarassed if your friends knew?


I'll start this all of with my obssesion with Missy Elliot... oOis it worth it? lemme work it. put my thang down flip it and reverse it... if you got a big *ellephant trumpet* lemme search it and find out how hard I gotta work itOo

heh. i have a spice girls single i bought when i was 14 or so and i still haven't burned it yet :D

i also bought tom jones 'reload' which i listened to once and decided it was so bad i should hide it under my bed. argh. i only bought it because he sang with kelly jones from the stereophonics who i had a reeeally huge crush on at the time. oops. :D

Thanks to becca, I constantly get Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit stuck in my head.
:P
Such a good angry song.
heh

Wohoo! :) I love that song. And all the other ones on my "Songs I Should Hate" mix........... I'll spare you the playlist, but it includes music from, well, pretty much every detestable genre. *Sheepish look.

Ace of Base
Ricky Martin (I went to a concert - for free, but still. Actually, I had a much better time there than I did the following night, seeing The String Cheese Incident)
and, I gotta say it, 'NSYNC.

I'm not proud.

Don't tell anyone, but I've been listening to Vanessa Carlton's "Be Not Nobody" a lot lately. It's about as poppy as it gets, but the songs are actually really good, she has a decent voice, and best of all she writes her own songs and plays the piano herself. She even has some very interesting musical moments -- for instance, her big hit "1000 Miles" never once uses the root chord (the song, say, is in G major, but she never plays a G chord - very cool).

Also, I love Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" and Eminem's "Marshall Mathers LP". I like something from every type of music, and those two CDs are rap music at its best. Nevermind the fact that they are homophobic hateful creeps, they make some damn powerful music.

Now that I think of it, you're right. 1000 MIles doesn't have a single G chord in it. Pretty impressive. Maybe the song was written on a dare (Betcha can't write a song without a single I chord in it!) If so, another one of those amazing stories of the unlikely bit hit song, the song that was meant to be a throwaway.

I have some Neil Diamond and Meat Loaf in my collection, as well as a Michael Crawford CD.

oooooo we love meat loaf!! especially on Chef Aid. :D

o/' after the love comes the darkness of hell, a demon inside you like a bottomless well... o/' etc, etc. :D

i actually went out and bought the single 'without me'. it's extremely catchy :)

"1000 miles" has been my number one guilty pleasure song all month. love it. i've also got a soft spot for avril lavigne. *ducks*

Gotta love Jim Steinman's lyrics. So epic, yet so predictable.

ahh don't feel bad.... I tend to get my guilty pleasures in the cutout bin. Got the first Hanson CD for a buck or 2... actually I was just watching one of my videos from the 90s, a bunch of videos from Nelson's first CD... and by crikey, I still like it as pop music!

Nelson!

.oO After the Rain Oo.

And how could I forget Hanson? They're dreamy!

Yeah, I'll join in here. While I don't plan to buy an album anytime soon, I really don't hate eminem nearly as much as I want to ;) I can't deny that he's talented and fairly catchy.

a friend of mine is also slowly exposing me to some semi-obscure rap from New York (the impression I get is that these bands are on about the same popularity level as Peter Mulvey). I don\'t know any names off hand, but there\'s an entire song filled with Back to the Future refrences, and another that goes on about LaserTag Acadamy...
How can you say no to that? :)
I'm not sure if it counts as a guilty pleasure, but I've always also had thing for covers that should-not-be (expecialy if they are good). Luther Wright and the Wrongs' "Rebuild the Wall" has been in my player since I found it last week.

Um...how did editing my post turn everything blue?

All I wanted to do was change "wrong's" to "wrongs'"...

That I'm admitting that I actually like the new Christina Aguilera (sp) song Beautiful.. came to it accidently while flipping channels.. I still wouldn't buy the single, but I actually like the song.

In case anyone's interested, Luther Wright and the Wrongs actually made a video of their version of "Another Brick in the Wall" which is kinda funny *g* (the whole cd's warped, but it's great ;>)

there's a video?!

Can this be found online?

you've turned us all blue. bad talcott, bad.

donno if it can be found online.. I saw flipping channels on my tv *shrug*

ooh, we like avril lavigne. good angry angsty music. :D

i asked for so solid crew's album last christmas. i didn't get it tho. :D

...and you guys probably have no idea who i'm talking about so i'll just shut up right now. :D

And she's hot.
:D

DVN was playing Rebuild The Wall as house music before their most recent Knitting Factory show. I downloaded most of it off the internet, and it's the funniest thing I've heard.

I just wouldn't play it if I was hosting company. :)

It's awesome and I don't consider it "guilty"...heee...it has the Tobey stamp of approval! :) We heard it as the house music at the Iron Horse before Jian was playing and we talked to Tobey and it was his CD and he'd put it on. When it was playing Paul, Melinda and I were totally grooving to it...all being Pink Floyd fans. (I think we scared Kat. :) )

I used to resent covers of musicians I loved. I felt like they were stealing or ruining my thing. I've done a total about-face on that over the years though and I LOVE covers. Especially if they're interesting. Anything that seems to respect the original while still putting on a new spin is awesome in my book.

I agree, covers done in an original way while respecting the original are faboo.

Cases in point:

Apocalyptica (Cello quartet playing Metallica) You'd think Metallica wrote classical-era music when you hear them playing the bridge section of Master Of Puppets.

I've heard a jazz version of The Nutcracker Suite, very good stuff, just don't remember who arranged it. I saw a PBS special where they had a full orchestra and a jazz band (Led by Maynard Fergason) on stage together. Then the conducter of the orchestra would talk to audience and show examples of both the original and jazz version using both groups. Very nice.

There is an Austrailian lounge singer who did a lounge version of TMBG's Kiss Me, Son Of God. It's excellent!

I'm not mentioning Me First & The Gimmes Gimmes. I finally downlaoded some of their stuff, and I actually don't find it that good. They're not bad or anything, it's just that it seems like the way they play they can turn ANYTHING into a punk song. And the way they doi it doesn't sound very original. I guess I'm going against the grain of a lot of people here, but that's my opinion.

Any other good examples?

I'm a big fan of tribute compilations. Like the Red Hot + whatever ones of Cole Porter or Gershwin....I love the XTC tribute album...the Lennon Working Class Hero one...the McCartney one rocks as well. I just love having covers grouped up like that.

Do you have the I Am Sam soundtrack?

TMBG is on the Paul McCartney CD, they did Ram On as an instrumental.

Yup...love the I Am Sam soundtrack as well. Some I think weren't that great but for the most part I thought the covers were awesome.

I opened the door for them once when I worked at the airport in Dallas years ago. They WERE cute little buggers. Heh!

I keep reading this as "The quiltiest" because of the underline.

yeah, at Canal St. In Dayton it was the house music before DVN. The Wrongs were going to be there the next week though, so I think it was the venue's music...

I wonder if DVN heard it for the first time along with me...

They're such a guilty pleasure, even Lite Radio won't play them!

I have to say I don't hate Michael Bolton, my first concert was to New Kids On The Block, and they still have a place in my heart, I even have an "I Love Donny" button. Then of course there are the one hit wonders, the single of "If you steal my sunshine" I don't remember that groups name, and 3 doors down, the cd I only bought because of Superman. That was a hard one to get away from though, it was being played everywhere. Oooh, and Shawn Mullins.
Those are the only ones I'm willing to admit to. The others will remain a secret.

I have to say I don't hate Michael Bolton, my first concert was to New Kids On The Block

Though either ONE of those statements is grounds for immediate death....

The former is FAR worse than the latter!
:D

I have to defend myself, I went to my first 'real' concert when I was 9, which was New Kids On The Block. They really were very cool to someone who'd been listening to Michael Bolton her whole life because that's what her parents listened to. Which also explains why I don't hate Michael Bolton, I grew up with him.

my first "real" concert was NKOTB, too. december 15, 1989. 10 years later TO THE DAY, my senior AP english teacher made an NKOTB reference and a classmate and i figured out we'd BOTH been at the concert and it was exactly 10 years before. *insert twilight zone music here*

as for my guilty pleasures... my boyfriend would have me believe that my fleetwood mac and carole king are guilty pleasures, but i disagree. as for pop stuff, i haven't listened to commercial radio at all since i started working at WUNH--yay for independent/underground music brats! hehe.

but i'll put in a positive vote for vanessa carlton. weird about the G/I chord. i like the dare theory.

and as for avril, don't get me started. yes, she actually writes her own stuff. yes, she actually plays guitar. yes, she's been playing with the same guys since she was 13. but is her anti-girl image any less destructive than the super-girl image promoted by britney/xtina/etc?

The Muppets are not a guilty pleasure they are high art! I'd feel guilty if I didn't like them.

When a similar thread was on AMMF years ago I brought up the Monkees. Lots of people, most of whom I've seen become friends with defended them. At least this time I spelled their name right, i'm pretty sure I wrote "Monkeys" back then.

Avril is sickening to most because people compare her to Britney/Christina. Simple fact of the matter is that she's a talented singer-songwriter discovered by big record labels seeing Britney's fans were moving on to something new, so they snatched her up, and marketed/molded her into a form the kids would love.

You have to admit, the big 5's marketing team knows what they're doing. We may never buy a CD or see a show of theirs, but they still sell a WHOLE bunch of albums. The marketers aren't looking at us, we're over the hill as far as they're concerned. We don't all buy the same albums as our friends, we're more spread out. We don't listen to just radio because that's all the kids have because we know that other, smaller radio stations exist, and we've already found other great, more obscure music. We don't buy as many albums as they do, we tend to spend our disposable income on concerts that only cost about $10-20 a pop, while the kidding drag their parents to shows that cost $50-75, which essentially sell twice as many seats because of the parents factor.

I would have liked to have seen Avril RIGHT BEFORE she was discovered. To see what she was like before BIG MUSIC started to mold her, while she was "in the wild". Also to see what BIG MUSIC saw in her that made them sign her.

End of rant, some of it is wrong I'm sure. :)

The monkees are excellent!!!!
:D
Sure.. they were a band of actors... much like BSB, etc.... but... they actually had talent, in the form of Mike Nesmith.

I don't know about carole king... but... fleetwood mac? Deer GOD, woman!!!

But... as for the NKOTB thing... I can TOTALLY see you as one of those teenybopper girls.
:D

the other thing about the Monkees is the fact that a lot of their songs were good. Sure, they didn't write (most of) them, but they weren't bad songs.

They had some really first rate songwriters. Carole King especially.

Hey - Barry Manilow is *not* a guilty pleasure. :-P He's a highly underappreciated talent...

I feel the same way about her. I checked out her album just to see what all the fuss was, and it seems like there's a talented musician underneath all the pandering lyrics, overcompression and squishy record scratches. I'm assuming she writes her own music, otherwise just ignore this post. She has some great musical moments, like the chorus to "Complicated". She has a total feel for great hooks, like in "Sk8tr Boi" (ugh, I hate that name, I feel like I'm 12 years old on AIM).

The thing that bugs me about her, though, is the way she's been marketed. I get the feeling that her bad-girl image is something her record label concocted. "Look at me, I'm a skater punk girl, and preppies suck." I read recently about a scuffle between her and her record company regarding her hair. They wanted her to tame it down or something, but she stood up and didn't let "the man" turn her into a preppie. I forget the details, but it was more than obvious that it was a publicity stunt. I know they're trying to sell the sizzle to teenagers, but ugh. I want music, not baggage.

With that said, I still like the direction mainstream music is going lately. I really think that the past couple years have had a number of performers who have made it big with more than just a pretty face. Like 'em or not, people like John Mayer, David Gray, Vanessa Carlton, and Avril LaWhatever represent a new, more musical direction for mainstream radio. The boy/girl band bubble may have finally burst, putting an end to the saddest chapter in music history! *crosses fingers*

The boy/girl band phase will be back. Music really does come in waves, we just have to wait for the new generation of kids to become 10-12 years old, and the labels will form NEW boy/girl bands to make them swoon. In the 80's, it was NKOTB, in the 70s it was David Cassidy, in the 60s it was the Beatles, in the 50s it was Elvis. I predict that around the latter half of this decade we'll be bombarded by more bubble-gum pop yet again.

And there is NO way she is a skater punk girl. She may used to have been one, but she's WAY too polished. I'm sure a lot of the punk kids I used to play shows for would certainly see right through her made-image.

I'll give her also this credit though, she doesn't lip-sync on stage. I saw her on MTV's New Year's Eve bash, and she was singing every note. In fact, the band was playing every note, there were no overdubs at all. Can't say that about a lot of acts these days. She may only be able to perform a few songs live (She's NEVER played any big shows besides radio festivals), but she's the real deal on stage. It's her.

Ahh, the days of when someone would lip-sync on television and the recorded music would fade out as they were "singing".....

Is it true about women bringing HUGE SIGNS to the show hoping they are the one picked to sing on stage with him?

I don't know if I've actually heard the monkees. Unless they are one of those many many groups I've heard but have no idea who are.

Heh, with all those signs at the show, the only difference between a Barry Manilow concert and a WWF/WWE wrestling show is the gender of the people holding up the signs!

The boy/girl band phase will be back. Music really does come in waves, we just have to wait for the new generation of kids to become 10-12 years old, and the labels will form NEW boy/girl bands to make them swoon.

I guess it's not that boy/girl bands are going, it's just that they're morphing into something that's way less crappy than Britney and N'Sync. You're right that it goes in waves. The great R&B/rock explosion of the early 50s, followed by the pretty-boy slump of the early 60s. Then along comes The Beatles which brought in a new wave of edgier and innovative music, which worked well until the smooth 70s. Then comes punk which slammed in the face of the easy listening junk, but then disco and new wave quickly brought that to a close. Then came hair bands. Ok, so there was a big rut in the 80s. Nirvana, Pearl Jam and the crew finally brought back some decent mainstream music, but that morphed into crap like Creed while mainstream people turned to boy/girl bands. I think we're finally entering a new cycle of good music again.

Grandaddy kicks ass. :-D I was really happy to see they made it on.

Yeah.. nirvana/pearl jam/alice in chains were really good bands... and I liked the direction music was going at that point.
What the hell happened?
:P

Every big record label opened up an office in Seattle and signed every single band they could find. Then the radio got saturated with the stuff, even Z100 was playing grunge music 24/7. People got sick of it, as with every new trend.

I've heard I'm a believer and daydream believer.

So....is that, like, a date?

Heeheee
:)

i'm not sick of it.. but then, I don't listen to the radio if I can help it.
The radio blows chunks.. (other than talk stuff on NPR)

I still listen to nirvana... and pearl jam.... and alice in chains.... *shrugs*

I refuse to feel guilty about liking the Spice Girls! I have a few documentaries, Spice World, and two of their CD's. At work, several people call me "Mollie Spice." And I saw them in concert, thankyouverymuch.

yes, they were a very interesting musical theater act.

One which I greatly disliked.
:)

I wonder if they ever get someone on stage that really cannot sing... like me... Hmm.. I think I would like to go to that barry Manalow show. :^D

But he is highly underappreciated or perhaps underrated. His pop stuff was popular but there's acres more to him than that. The jingles were just really to pay the rent back when he started (and he wrote acres of them too). He's an incredibly talented pianist, arranger, orchestrator and producer. He's written scores for movies, plays for Broadway - not to mention the work he did with Bette Midler (back in the day before she went all Oprah *sigh*).

OMG! I love Air Supply! I belonged to their fan club in high school. :)

I've been making mix CD's of music that's been on the local modern rock stations.... music (over the last two years) from bands like 3 Doors Down, Fuel, Creed, Staind, Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd, Jimmy Eat World, Hoobastank, Linkin Park, Default, Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Trust Company, SR-71, Taproot, Stone Sour...

Some of my current favorites from this collection are "Hero" [Chad Kroger feat. Josey Scott], "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" [Good Charlotte], "Diamonds and Guns" [Transplants], "Bring Me To Life" [Evanescence], and "Bother" [Stone Sour]

They tend to find their way into my car, good road trip mixes.

-- Pauley

craig david. omg, i forgot about him. :D

well, most of you probably think I should feel guilty about this, but the last few albums I've bought have been Nick Carter's Now or Never, Christina Aguilera's Stripped, and Justin Timberlake's Justified. (Not to mention, I have the three main Nsync albums, and they're my current desktop wallpaper).

None of these CDs are groundbreaking or life-changing. But they're solid. There are -really- well written tracks on each, in among the studio-manufactured hit singles. Each performer is taking the opportunity to do some writing, and they're not failing miserably... in fact, they're giving fans a chance to learn something new about them, and to appreciate their music for entirely different reasons. They're good albums.

For those that don't know me... no, I'm not some teeny that's stumbled into fruvous accidentally, though I'm pretty sure there are some of those around. I'm more likely to put on Miles Davis, EFO, Spirit of the West, or the same kind of a cappella/vocal jazz stuff that I sing.

Guess you could say I'm more of a fruhead who accidentally stumbled into pop music. :)

Actually, he started out in advertising when he was young - that was almost what he went into before music. All the college courses were listed alphabetically and it was top of the list. ;) He wrote a fascinating book several years back about how he first got into music. His first real job was in the mailroom of CBS and he went on to be a log clerk for on-air operations (the guy who makes sure everything runs on time). Did you know that he sought advice on leaving CBS for a career in music from the Playboy Advisor? :)

Technically speaking though, his fist solo gig was before the Paul's Mall show. In the late 1960's he had a 2 week playing and singing in a piano bar. This was back before he'd even considered recording anything. He was so nervous, he was numb and said it was "like being dead with none of the benefits. *g*

Somehow I think we might be boring everyone else. ;-)

A friend of mine (who's a Democrat) would say in response, "The Clinton administration happened." He claims that during Democratic administrations, music goes downhill-- musicians and artists (who he says tend to be more liberal than the average bear) are healthier and not as cranky, and people just feel like singing silly songs and dancing. But when there's a Republican administration, musicians and artists (consciously or not) resist authority. So punk happens. New wave happens. Mainstream music becomes less pretty and more confrontational.

I'm not sure I buy it completely, but it's compelling.

I don't buy that. The sixties was a pretty good decade for music and Republicans were in office only two years, 1960 and 1969.

my only experience whith the backstreet boys is being thretened by the DJ with them at a middle school dance. I tell ya' THAt got us whipped into shape damn quick.

Thank you!!� While they've long since fallen from heavy rotation in my home player, the Spice Girls are still one of my favorite pop acts.� They may not have been the most talented, but they more than made up for it in energy.

Both albums, the film, and the Goodbye single (for their wonderful version of "Christmas Wrapping")

I should add that the 80s were republican all the way and not a great musical period. The Clinton Years were better. I think I would actually argue that exactly the reverse is true.

I'll agree that the Gimme Gimmes are far from great.� If they released an album of originals, I'd probably run away screaming.� But, as a fan of classic punk, I love the way they reference other cuts in a cover (examples include: the London Calling riff through Elenor, Just What I Needed as an intro for I'll Be There).�

Anyone can do punk... three chords for under three minutes.� I don't even play and I think I could pull it off. :-)

The group was Len... I have the CD and a vinyl picture disc of that album.� As for the rest, it seems that I'm coming late to this party.� I'll leave the rant alone.

My friend Chris was on the Missy Elliot bandwagon in 1991.� I tried, but couldn't get into it (I was busy catching up with the Ramones and Led Zeppelin).� Her newer stuff if fantastic.� Now I have to backtrack to Missy as well.

Just to clarify, is this for albums I'm embarrassed to own, or albums other people think I should be embarrassed by? :-)

I probably should be embarrassed by: Blues Traveler, EMF, Nelson, Debbie Gibson, Len, Lou Bega, REO Speedwagon, Twisted Sister, Spin Doctors, Tuesdays, and countless others... especially from the disco, hairbanger, and bubblegum genres.

I am actually embarrassed by: Boyz II Men and Dave Matthews Band.

I've only parted company with one CD purchase voluntarily: The B-52's Cosmic Thing.� Hot Pants Explosion... I couldn't deal with it.

My current guilty pleasure: The Donnas

Well, while there are plenty of CDs, Tapes and 45s that I'm ashamed of having and don't really listen to anymore (Paula Abdul, Tiffany, Belinda Carlisle, Nelson, Hootie, the list goes on and on..), there are a few that I usually don't publicize that�I own but listen to them when the mood fits...these include:� ABBA: Gold, Bette Midler: Experience the Divine, Vengaboys, 1776: New Broadway Cast, Erasure, Pet Shop Boys, and Various Billboard Top Pop Hits from the 80s.

I have Spiceworld and I like it.

I also have CrazySexyCool by TLC, just b/c I got it in 7th grade and can't part with it.

Lots of rap/hiphop mp3's and shake yo booty music make me happy.� and 80's pop.

actually... Blues Traveler and Spin Doctors are both *excellent*, tight live bands.� I'd see em anytime.� Especially the Spins-- didn't see them at all in the 90s, based on live recordings I've heard, they've improved a lot!!! �And from what I remember of the shows in my teen years, Nelson was too.� And I'll gladly yap a second about the B-52's because they're my favorites, I finally got to see them FRONT ROW this year and it rocked!� "Hot Pants Explosion" was on Good Stuff, the followup to Cosmic Thing, Good Stuff was a lot more scary because that was when Cindy had left the band, so not only were they putting out songs like that (not that introspective songwriting was ever an issue with this band, heheh), but the live shows had people like that dreadful Julee Cruise filling in for Cindy... UGH!� Thankfully that's over, and they do a lot of Cosmic Thing and older stuff at their shows currently...� oh, and for the folks talking about the Monkees, if you get more into their catalogue, that's where you find a lot of stuff the band wrote, especially Mike.� Anyway...�� that's enough of my music history lesson for today *closing book*

Sure, if you like chain-smoking teenage whores with raccoon makeup and no fashion sense.

Musically, you could certainly do worse than Avril; at least the tunes are�kind of catchy.� Her lyrics are pretty dumb, though, and she seems like a total airhead as a person.� (Yes, I like music by people with whom I probably would never make friends, but Avril's stupidity seems to be a large part of her image and her career as a musician.)

I don't really mind Vanessa Carlton.� Her voice is kind of weird, and her lyrics are rather trite (I get the impression that they're high school poems that she set to music), but she's not a bad musician.� And what's wrong with sounding "poppy"?� Isn't Fr�vous pop music?

Why would you WANT to hate Eminem?� I'm not planning on buying any of his albums or anything, but his songs (raps?) are really catchy, and I don't feel guilty in admitting that.

gaaah. way to make me feel old. :)

Well, true... but sans-makeup she looks good.

Thanks for the correction; I knew there was something that didn't sound right.� Cosmic Thing was good, Good Stuff was not.� I bought Good Stuff based on Cosmic Thing, and promptly traded it away.

I had an opposite experience about the Spin Doctors live show.� I saw them on a triple bill (Cracker, Gin Blossoms, Spin Doctors)... I want to say 93 or 94, but the years are all running together.� It was their first show after being booed off the stage at the Reading Festival.� I can see how it could be entertaining, but none of us appreciated it at the time.� Maybe it was the seven minute extended jam "Pocket Full Of Kryptonite," a full three minutes of which was, "Kreeeeeeep-toe-nite-ah."� We left early.

I realize that there are very few pop radio listeners here.� Pop radio has long been one of my guilty pleasures, dating back to when pop music was good.

That being said, while none of her CD's have entered my collection, I'm glad to hear Britney's return.� Sure, she thought "I Love Rock And Roll" was a Pat Benatar song, and she's recorded real crap like "Email My Heart,"� but there's something about her voice that I've missed.

Am I alone in this?

Justien used to think alex looked like kelly jones and both of you ahd a crush on kelly jones ergo you both had a crush on my boyfriend.� At the time we had a REAL guilty pleasure teeny bopper hanon fans (ie Hanson circa Where's the Love) they did a show hee recently and my friends went.� It seems all their fans are now 20 year old Tool fans who just happen to still like Hanson as they did when they were younger.� That seemed pretty cool.� Hanson completists are�Tool fans.

wow... i still have ALOT of the cds i owned back when i was� 11 and 12... lets see here... Savage Garden.. Hanson [of course].... and get this... DONNY OSMOND...

ok.. ok.. So i have this WEIRD fascination with the great Osmondo...

I actually SOLD my NSYNC and Backstreet cds to this little girl down the street about 3 years ago.����� But yes.. i used to listen to them.. and if its from the first 2 albums, I usually wont turn it off the radio,either.� I'm a sucker for Blessid Union of Souls [you know those guys who sing "Hey Leonardo! She Likes Me for Me!"].... ok.. ok.. So i admit it.. I'm friends with the former keyboardist, and i run Eliot Sloan's fan club...

Those are basically my guilty pleasures... P.s... theres nothing wrong with Barry Manilow.. and Bat out of Hell by Meatloaf is one of my favorite albums ever... -Sam

You are older than dirt.

Yeah, I heard terrible things about the Spins live in the early 90s!!� And I was prepped for that, and was kocked on my butt when I found out they ROCK now.� Maybe it's sobriety or something ;)

Yup, I'd say that's about right. The girls standing behind us at the most recent T.O Hanson concert were 19 or so and on their way to a heavy metal show afterwards. I on the other hand,� 20 in 3 months�yes but Tool, definitely not=p. My Hanson guilty pleasure is defintely going strong though. I've been listening to their new album "Underneath Acoustic"(Yes, they've gone acoustic believe it or not) non-stop all week. It's *SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO* Good!�Now I just have to get my hands on another copy of "Middle of Nowhere"(sold mine hoping it would make me "cooler" a few years ago). Oh by the way, if you haven't already guessed, SO no ashamed *hehe*

i have to say my guilty pleasures are nine inch nails (my first concert - pop will eat itself opened!), the ramones, green day, etc... anything that's angry or punk-catchy, i'm hooked. i've loved these bands forever and a day - i used to buy the albums on tape and rock around my room as a preteen - mostly, because i'm a dork :Di also really like nirvana: unplugged and a few of their other albums (but sometimes i just cant get their version of Lake of Fire or Man who sold the world out of my head).

the angsty sad brits are the cure, depeche mode, the smiths/morrissey, etc. speaking of which, anyone else noticing that Hot Hot Heat is totally channelling early/mid-career cure? i keep expecting them to bust out into "badabababababa, baaabababababababa..lovecats!"

and while i'ts not a guilty pleasure, as i feel no guilt for it, i'm still obsessed with james.

����������������� I, who am a devoted�jazz, classical, flamenco, spanish guitar player from Woodstock New York, have always had a soft spot for the original gangsta rappers N.W.A.� Dre, Cube, Eazy, Ren, and Yella will always have a place in my heart, I am not afraid to say it.� Oh, and I also have hidden the fact the Styx's Mr. Roboto is one of the greatest recordings of all time in my opinion.� You may smite me if you disagree.

Ooooh, Maynard Ferguson! Saw him and his band, Big Bop Nouveau (he referred on stage to himself and the trumpet section, all together 4 rather large gentlemen, as "The Jenny Craig Quartet" :-P), on stage twice during high school. Picked up a new CD each time (which is to say, my mom got two CDs, which I have since stolen and never given back :-P)

*queues both CDs up into winamp* ;)

-- Pauley

The Ramones are NOT a guilty pleasure. I'm ashamed that it took me so long to appreciate them.