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«Kate Leahy» i did quite a bit of room partying at frucon 2 (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:30pm) «nate...» Never went to the bar... we had our own personal waitress. :) (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:30pm) «nate...» We tipped her so well that she would bring us drinks before the current ones were empty and without us even asking. heh (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:30pm) «Kate Leahy» dear me :). i think i stood by the bar the whole time. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «nate...» I love good waitresses. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «nate...» She was even extra-quiet around my mics. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «Kate Leahy» i love the canadian exchange rate. so much easier to be generous. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «nate...» yup! (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Heh. I was unimpressed by the mixed drinks at Lee's. Plus, they didn't have cider. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «Kate Leahy» that drink was $3? take $10! it's monopoly money! (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «danced with Lazlo» Anni, I can't tell you if you're an alcoholic... but you do make up a lot of excuses (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «Kate Leahy» anni -- i think there are a *lot* of social alcoholics. a lot. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «danced with Lazlo» you do talk about alcohol an *awful* lot (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «nate...» michael: the quality of a mixed drink is directly proportional to how much you tip on the first couple rounds. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «Kate Leahy» talk to a professional if you're concerned. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «Andrea Krause» I don't know you well enough. I think your alcohol use is something to be concerned about, but I don't know how far that goes. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:33pm) «Kate Leahy» i found them very willing to make anything i asked for. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:33pm) «danced with Lazlo» I'm very reluctant to slap the label "alcoholic" on anyone... I'm not so sure about the idea that once you realize you're an alcoholic you have to stop drinking altogether and never have another drink again (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:33pm) «Kate Leahy» andrea's right. i was concerned about the alocohol use of 90% of the people i knew in college. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:33pm) «nate...» Oh, and she also brought that big tray of shots up to dave's mic stand from us. :D (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:33pm) «Kate Leahy» heh. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:34pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I *always* take care of my bartenders. But it was just so crazy busy that night that they couldn't spare much personal attention. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:34pm) «danced with Lazlo» but I think, anni, that you could stand to not only cut back on your drinking, but more importantly change your attitude toward and your relationship with alcohol (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:34pm) «Misch» I saw a t-shirt a coupl eof days ago... "I'm A Drunk... Alcoholics go to meetings." (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:34pm) «nate...» paul: nice! :D (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:34pm) «Kate Leahy» gella -- one of my best friends is a recovering alcoholic and that's his situation exactly (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:34pm) «Andrea Krause» I think when the most memorable part of a night (or at least when you tell it) is how drunk you were, there's an issue. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:35pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well...I'm not sure, either. But I do know that my dad has done his level best to drink-not-to-excess. It never works out. For him, at least, abstainance is the only way to go. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:35pm) «nate...» andrea: well, not if it was a night of drinking. :) (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:35pm) «Kate Leahy» but i also know other people who have noticed poor behaviors and have cut back consciously -- they still drink on occassion (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:35pm) «Andrea Krause» Well yes nate...but if that's all it was and ever was intended to be, that scares me too. :) (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:35pm) «danced with Lazlo» Michael... yes, if one is incapable of changing theri attitude toward alcohol, then the safest road is abstinence (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «nate...» Andrea: really? You don't think people should go out bar hopping or drinking? (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Reverend Gordon kisses the hands of Andrea and Kate. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «danced with Lazlo» But I am not comfortable with the idea that people simply *cannot* change and painting all alcohol abusers with one very wide brush (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «Kate Leahy» andrea -- that's pretty rare for me, i think. typically the conversations and such were the best part. thinking about the drunkenness level is more just expressing disbelieg. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Hi Gella (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «Kate Leahy» disbelief, even (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:36pm) «Kate Leahy» ah, see, if it's a crutch . . . well, there's your problem (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:37pm) «nate...» kate: exactly.... that whole getting home and looking at the tab thing. "We drank HOW much?? holy crap!" (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:37pm) «Kate Leahy» or recounting some stupid thing you said or did and thinking "wow. must've been pretty drunk." (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:37pm) «nate...» yup. :) (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:37pm) «Andrea Krause» well nate...I guess I just don't see the appeal of drinking being the aim of the night. If it's to be with friends, then the being with friends should be the abiding memory. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:37pm) «Kate Leahy» "i was so wasted" is usually a correllary to something else (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:38pm) «danced with Lazlo» Anni, are you aware of what you're saying? Because with you its sometimes hard to tell if you are consciously or unconsciously fishing for a reaction or if you simply don't get the gravity of what you are saying (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:38pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» I've always been happy that I don't like alcohol. I can resist anything but temptation (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:38pm) «danced with Lazlo» hi gordon (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:38pm) «nate...» right.... (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:38pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Reverend Gordon kisses the hand of anni (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:38pm) «Kate Leahy» andrea -- of course. but for me, drinking is always social. in fact, the friendship part of it can typically be what makes you forget how much you've had to drink. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «Andrea Krause» thank you gella, I've had that thought. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «nate...» andrea: i wouldn't say that it's the "aim of the night"... but it is the motivation ... to go out drinking. Get some people together and go out drinking. It's fun because of the company, but the (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «Andrea Krause» I supposed Kate. My bias rearing its head again. :) (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «nate...» activity is still "drinking". (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Absolutely, Kate. I think that alcoholism lies in the inability to cut back, even though you see consequences. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «Kate Leahy» i don't believe i've ever sat around with a bunch of people in silence just pounding drinks to get drunk, (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» If it's fun because of the company wouldn't it be fun without the drinking? (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «danced with Lazlo» saying something like "alcohol is my only crutch left" is a pretty loaded statement (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:39pm) «Kate Leahy» andrea: no problem :) my lack of experience with your particular bias is impeding my ability to empathize. but i'm trying. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:40pm) «nate...» gordon: who knows. :) (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:40pm) «danced with Lazlo» Yes anni, i get that (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:40pm) «Kate Leahy» anni -- i'm sorry . . . i didn't mean to suggest that you did. that was a hypothetical for andrea (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:40pm) «danced with Lazlo» which is why it comes across as so loaded to me (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:40pm) «nate...» I hang out with my friends while drinking and while not drinking... it's always fun.... but, going out to bars is just yet another activity to do together. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:40pm) «danced with Lazlo» You do something healthy, ani (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «danced with Lazlo» anni (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «danced with Lazlo» switching from one addiction to another is *not* the same as dealing with your problems (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «Kate Leahy» anni: my suspicion would be that if you can't come up with a good answer to that question, you'll need to talk to someone with bit more training than us (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «nate...» agreed (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «Talcott» hey all (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «danced with Lazlo» everything I know about you pulled together tells me that you have a lot of issues that you've never thought to deal with (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:41pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» The problem with social drinking is that it becomes a cover for problem drinkers. Not that I'm for prohibition or any such thing. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:42pm) «Kate Leahy» okay, anni. best of luck . . . have a good day. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:42pm) «Kate Leahy» gordon: it certainly does. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:42pm) «danced with Lazlo» Anni, we're not trying to gang up on you (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:42pm) «lawrence» except that it still depends on the goal, as has pretty much already been stated. (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:42pm) «Talcott» *hugs* (Mar 31, 2003 @ 1:42pm) « Previous 100 entries | Next 100 entries »
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