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«Michael (foof) Maki» turkey dinner at my house was strictly two times a year...Thanksgiving and Christmas. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:18am) «I can see the bunny» my birthday's Wednesday but I'm working so we're doing birthday dinner thing tonight (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:18am) «Talcott» .oO Stuck in a closet with Vanna White - night after night after night after night Oo. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:18am) «I can see the bunny» and I want a turkey dammit ;) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:19am) «Talcott» wanting turkey is a good excuse (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:19am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Now I know what you mean (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:19am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» about pascal (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:19am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» I never bought it though (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:19am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» It ignores the possibility that there is the potential for eternal reward and punishment for doing the opposite of what religion says to do. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:20am) «Talcott» Talcott needs to get going (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:21am) «Talcott» Bye all! (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:21am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» bye (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:21am) «Michael (foof) Maki» yeah. Not to mention that there are an infinitude of *false* religions and only one true one. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:21am) «I can see the bunny» bye Talcott! (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:21am) «I can see the bunny» there is no one true religion (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:22am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Your birthday? Isn't it about time we dropped you in a volcano, or made Soylent Green out of you, or something? ;-) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:22am) «I can see the bunny» Michael :-P (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:22am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, from the point of view of Pascal's Wager there is... (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:23am) «Michael (foof) Maki» But fundamentally, I agree with you. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:23am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Michael how about Carousel. Or am I the only one to have seen that flick. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:23am) «Michael (foof) Maki» I think religion basically boils down into pride. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:23am) «Michael (foof) Maki» I've oinly ever seen Carousel on-stage...and was not impressed. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:24am) «I can see the bunny» I think religion boils down to power (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:24am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Oh? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:25am) «Michael (foof) Maki» How so, Leanne? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:26am) «nate...» I think religion boils down to a nice demi-glace. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:26am) «I can see the bunny» most organized religion is about a heirarchy of people having a sort of mental control of the populace (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:27am) «I can see the bunny» especially Christianity... (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:28am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Then you need to deglaze the pan to get all those tasty brown bits. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:28am) «Michael (foof) Maki» But they didn't start that way. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:29am) «Michael (foof) Maki» They started with people trying to make sense of the mysteries of life. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:29am) «I can see the bunny» Christianity did (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:29am) «nate...» mmm... religion au jus. :) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:30am) «Michael (foof) Maki» What?! So you think the 12 disciples were all about controlling the populace?! (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:30am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» I iddn't mean Carousel, I meant Logan's Run. On your 30th b'day you go on carousel and get killed (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:30am) «Michael (foof) Maki» ah, yes... Logan's Run. Yeah, I have sen that. :-) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:31am) «I can see the bunny» Christianity took a great man from the period and rewrote all the pagan beliefs of the time to create a religion around him (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:31am) «Michael (foof) Maki» <rolls eyes> Of course. Paganism is the one true religion. How silly of me. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:32am) «Michael (foof) Maki» neo-pagans who think they have anything to do with the pagans of old drive me utterly nuts. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:32am) «Michael (foof) Maki» I mean, at least Christianity has history to it. Paganism is like cotton candy...all swwtness and no substance. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:33am) «I can see the bunny» there is no one true religion (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:33am) «Michael (foof) Maki» If I hear one more self-professed witch going on and on about "the burning times" as if that was about anything more than mass hysteria, I shall scream. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:34am) «I can see the bunny» paganism is a faith that is always changing (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:34am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Because it isn't a faith at all. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:34am) «I can see the bunny» and it has a lot of substance, thank you very much (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:35am) «I can see the bunny» what would make you say that Michael? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:35am) «nate...» lack of sleep? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:35am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Because there are no precepts. No universal beliefs. None of the things that define a faith. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:36am) «I can see the bunny» and yes, Christianity has a history to it - it happens to be our history... ;) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:36am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Not to mention no history. You saying that there is some connection between you and the cults of old doesn't make it true. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:36am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Heh. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:37am) «Melinda J. Beasi» hey you guys? quit it. that's all. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:37am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Pascal's Triangle kisses the hand of Melinda (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:37am) «Michael (foof) Maki» But the thing is that *every* set of beliefs borrows heavily from beliefs that have come before them. You think Paganism popped, fully formed, from the ether? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:38am) «I can see the bunny» Uhhh, actually it does have several universal beliefs that we agree on - it's just the details that are flexible (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:38am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Melinda: ??? Who appointed you wall-monitor? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:38am) «Melinda J. Beasi» thanks gordon. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:38am) «Melinda J. Beasi» dude, i'm not pretending to be a monitor. i'm just weary of all the arguing here lately. just making a request. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:39am) «Michael (foof) Maki» "Quit it"doesn't sound like a request to me. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:39am) «nate...» then say please. ;) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:39am) «I can see the bunny» whatever - apparently I should go right back to avoiding the wall (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:39am) «nate...» I agree though... this has been a very negative place of late.... (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:39am) «nate...» Perhaps that's just a reflection of negativity in the world at the moment.... but I dunno. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:40am) «Melinda J. Beasi» forget it. this place has begun to suck. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:40am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» There have always been problems (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:40am) «I can see the bunny» I'll just go have lunch or something constructive (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:40am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Nothing is perfect (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:41am) «I can see the bunny» I rather thought the conversation was interesting but I guess I'm alone on that (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:41am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» it's made of people, it can't be (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:41am) «Melinda J. Beasi» it's never been this constant. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:41am) «nate...» Well, I thought it was interesting... but.. there was definitely an adversarial undertone. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:41am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Yeah, I thought the conversation was interesting, as well. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:42am) «I can see the bunny» well, debating something can be.... (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:42am) «nate...» ahhh.. I dunno... I deal with too much negativity all day at work.... lately it's been seeming like the wall is just more constant bickering. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:42am) «nate...» but, hey... whateva. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:42am) «nate...» Talcott's First Prophet goes away (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:42am) «I can see the bunny» I deal with customers - I don't get to argue at work ;) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:43am) «Melinda J. Beasi» sorry if i misinterpreted. it didn't feel like debate. it felt like bickering. or at least the part i came in on. but yeah... going away is always an option, so i'll take it. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:43am) «Michael (foof) Maki» Come in, bitch about what going on, then leave. Nice, Melinda. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:44am) «I can see the bunny» *sigh* this is why I've been avoiding the wall Gordon - apparently I shouldn't have come back on it... (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:44am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Yes you should (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:44am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» People make mistakes, it happens (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:45am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» There is still plenty of good here. Where else are you going to get your hand kissed? :-) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:45am) «I can see the bunny» There used to be a time that if you didn't like the conversation - you changed the topic. Now people just tell you to shut up... (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:48am) «I can see the bunny» I miss the days when people actually joined in a conversation here (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:50am) «Melinda J. Beasi» look, i'm sorry. sorry for everything. sorry sorry sorry. okay? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:50am) «I can see the bunny» now I'm going to have lunch and go elsewhere (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:50am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» People have joined in. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:50am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» You know Melinda well enought to know that she was trying to be nice (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:51am) «Melinda J. Beasi» thank you so much gordon. it means a lot that you would say that. and i was. the "quit it" was supposed to be sort of soft and friendly but like "hey guys... getting a little heated, dontcha think? (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:53am) «Melinda J. Beasi» it really means a lot to me that you recognize that. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:54am) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» People are a bit tense now. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:57am) «Melinda J. Beasi» yes, this is true. probably including me. :) (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:58am) «I can see the bunny» HP Church of Graham thought we were having an interesting debate on the wall...there's always changing the subject instead just telling us we should stop...but it's pretty irrelevant now anyway (Mar 30, 2003 @ 11:59am) «Melinda J. Beasi» leanne, i didn't mean for you to "stop" the conversation. i just thought it was getting a little angry. and god, i want to find someplace to be that isn't angry. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 12:00pm) «Melinda J. Beasi» and i really do apologize for misreading debate as bickering if i did. perhaps i just came in at the wrong time. (Mar 30, 2003 @ 12:01pm) «I can see the bunny» didn't seem angry to me though - passionate perhaps, but Michael and I luuuv each other (Mar 30, 2003 @ 12:01pm) «Melinda J. Beasi» well... and please o please don't take this the wrong way like everyone seems to take everything these days- considering the anger that was shot at me after i spoke up, i'm thinking there had to be some in the room already. y'know? maybe not (Mar 30, 2003 @ 12:02pm) « Previous 100 entries | Next 100 entries »
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