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«hkath» oh, no, lord of the rings talk! (Mar 8, 2003 @ 8:58pm) «iPauley» *sneaks in for a BeccaHug* (Mar 8, 2003 @ 8:58pm) «hkath» hi! (Mar 8, 2003 @ 8:59pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I think the fact that there hasn't been much snow-cover is hindering the corci here. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:00pm) «hkath» oops (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:02pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» The problem with working weekends at my firm is that only the attorneys who cannot or will not put off any work will be there on Saturday. In other words, the asshole-ratio goes WAAAY up. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:02pm) «no one» keeping society in perspective? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:02pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» say Kath... What's Twitch City? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:02pm) «jaye» keeping society introspective (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:03pm) «no one» jaci, heh (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:03pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Inherent the Wind? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:04pm) «hkath» what's twitch city? possibly the best... well, I wouldn't call it a TV show. The best 6 hours you can spend pondering the nature of television. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:04pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Kath: Oh? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:04pm) «hkath» it was a tv show directed by Bruce McDonald, and written and starring Don McKellar. Also starring Molly Parker and Callum Keith Rennie. Jennifer Jason Leigh guested... so did the King of Kensington :) (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:06pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» "Jesus is descended from Moses, and I have a big list of names to prove it." (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:07pm) «hkath» ? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:07pm) «no one» "the nature of television!" i won't hold my breath for a documentary on it by david attenborough (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:07pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Sorry...was quoting from a line in a play I saw a jillion years ago. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:08pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» It was mocking the differences between the gospels...with four different retellings of the life of Jesus. :-) (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:10pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I'm not sure which of the gospels has all the "____ begat ____"s in it, but that's the one I was fondly recalling. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:12pm) «no one» mhh, considering that the earliest copies of the gospels are in greek and written a couple of hundred years after jesus's death, it all seems a little unreliable (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:13pm) «no one» whats wrong with a discussion on bible crap? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:13pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Heh. State Farm Insurance will no longer pay out on comprehensive auto insurance if your car is destroyed in a nuclear holocaust. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:14pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Stefan: I believe that was the point they were getting at. :-) (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:14pm) «jaye» oh. because the use of the word "crap" certainly implied judgment to me (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:14pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» In that case, yes, Anni. We are talking about bible crap again. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:14pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I love some translations of the bible. The Good News is a great read. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:15pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» and the language in the KJV is beautiful, but utterly opaque. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:16pm) «no one» sf agrees with the fiction aspect (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:16pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Yeah. That was the version of the bible we used in Catechism. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:17pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Yeah, weird, I know. Who even knew Catholics BELIEVED in the Bible... :-) (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:17pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Enhh. "fiction" and "non fiction" are kind of meaningless when applied to religious texts. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:18pm) «no one» explain please, michael (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:20pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I mean, do I believe that the Bible is literally true? No...but then, neither do most Christians. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:20pm) «no one» so, is it illiterally true? (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:21pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, IMHO, it's not intended as a history...but a set of beliefs to ponder. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:22pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Stefan: Yes. It is figuratively true. But, you could argue that about anything. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:22pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Anni: I would argue that *all* of it is symbolism. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:23pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Absolutely. Let's say that it really *is* divinely inspired by God. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:23pm) «jaye» that's the point of myth. it's true on the inside, not on the outside. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:23pm) «no one» set of beliefs, great, crusades, wec will win because god is on our side, no incest in this christian community ... (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:23pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, someone as with-it as God is knows that societies change, and that we're likely not going to be speaking the same language today as we were 2000 years ago. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:24pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» so, what does he do if he wants to get his message across across the milennia? Tell a story. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:24pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» It matters precious little to me the political intrigues going on between Samaritans and the other tribes... (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:25pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» but the parable of the Good Samaritan is deeply meaningful in my everyday life. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:25pm) «hkath» ooh, double Style Invitational this week. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:26pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Anni: Well...yeah. But that's the stuff I don't bother reading. I give a shit whether Jesus is descended from King David. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:26pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Okay, Anni. You're right. I was engaging in hyperbole. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:27pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I don't really understand people who say that the KJV is the only valid version of the bible. I mean, the KJV itself is a translation, ferchrissakes. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:28pm) «I can see the bunny» there - I now have normal sized pics on my profile... (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:29pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» But even literalistic stuff can be used symbolically... To go back to that list of begats... (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:29pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, none that we've found yet, anyway, Anni. At some point, someone *must* have put pen to paper and written each of the books of the bible. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:30pm) «no one» sorry, i'm out of here for three hours. all religions are superstitions to me (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:30pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, yeah, it's a family tree. But it's also a statement of the importance that the writer gave to Jesus. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:30pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» He considered him so important he couldn't possibly NOT be a direct descendent of one of the central characters in the Jewish tradition. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:31pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» SF: Enhh. Superstitions often arise from real observations. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:32pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I mean, if you're trying to get my feathers all ruffled by arguing that religion is mostly a set of superstitions, you're barking up the wrong tree. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:33pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» But I think that's irrelevant. It still tells an interesting story. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:33pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» no, that was directed at Stefan. (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:34pm) «no one» yes, michael, and they can lead to radically wrong conclusions (Mar 8, 2003 @ 9:34pm) « Previous 100 entries | Next 100 entries »
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