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«nate...» I decided not to comment on that. ;) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:33pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I, personally, think that Long Island is one of the white trash epicenters. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:33pm) «nate...» thankfully, I live in new england, I don't need to put up with mullets. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:33pm) «John J. Ryan» None that I've met. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:34pm) «ellen» nate. I guess you've REALLY never been to the Bif E. Mullet haven. :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:34pm) «ellen» er. big E (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:34pm) «nate...» heh... those are mullets from elsewhere, though. :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:34pm) «nate...» They're from CT, which has a LOT of whitetrash. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:34pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» along with the entire state of Florida. Nevermind me, I'm amusing myself. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:35pm) «John J. Ryan» Off-topic: Free speech, huh? (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:36pm) «ellen» technically, however you might like to view it otherwise, nate, CT is part of new england... (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:36pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Umm...just how is it possible that someone's been idle or away for 2 minutes longer than he's been online?! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:36pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Now the Bush administration is afraid of *poets*?! Just how small *is* his penis?! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:37pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Oops. I'm using my "outside voice" again, aren't I? (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:38pm) «nate...» Ellen: naw... CT isn't even part of the US... it's one of the rings of hell. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:42pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» (along with Alabama?) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:43pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Whoo. I'm *consistently* striking out today. <tap, tap> is this thing on? (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:44pm) «Andrea Krause» hey, leave CT alone! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:45pm) «nate...» We should take CT, attach it to florida... and whing 'em out into the ocean. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:46pm) «ellen» aww. *hugsmike*] (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:46pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» heh (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:47pm) «Andrea Krause» Michael! Nate wants to kill me! hurt him! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:47pm) «nate...» no, we're trying to eliminate CT so you can live in a better place. :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:48pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Nate: Your parents never love you. They told me. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:48pm) «Andrea Krause» But you said nothing about evacuating me (and mine) first! *pout* (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:48pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Oh...wait. Did you mean hurt him *physically*?> (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:48pm) «Andrea Krause» Either or (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:49pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» may I go home now, please? I don't think I'm doing anyone any good by being awake today. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:49pm) «nate...» well, that was obvious.... all fruheads removed from CT... all rest stay in, then we fire. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:49pm) «Andrea Krause» and even if you evacuate me, I'll still have no job and no income because you threw it away! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:49pm) «nate...» well, you're better off. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:50pm) «nate...» no self-respecting person would live and work in CT. ;) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:50pm) «Andrea Krause» I'd really rather not be jobless and broke :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:50pm) «Andrea Krause» are you willing to subsidize my CT-free existence? (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:50pm) «nate...» because I'm something other than broke? :P (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:51pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I keep telling you to move to Chicago and I'll support you. Sheesh. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:51pm) «Andrea Krause» you can support me, my boy, and three cats?? :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:51pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well... that's the rub... (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:52pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I can barely afford to support myself. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:52pm) «Misch» hireme @paulmischler.com runs off to an interview. Lata all! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:53pm) «nate...» I run on a zero balance model. :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:53pm) «nate...» I get my paycheck deposited, and the account is back to zero in a day or two. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:53pm) «Andrea Krause» well if none of y'all can support me, then leave me my state intact! :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:54pm) «nate...» sorry andrea, no can do. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:55pm) «nate...» Something needs to be done before the infection which is CT spreads and kills off the country. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:55pm) «ellen» augh! busy! *runs away* (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:58pm) «nate...» and all of a sudden, we're in a Peanuts strip. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:59pm) «danced with Lazlo» AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 12:59pm) «danced with Lazlo» Gella. Gender Indifferent trying to kick a football (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:00pm) «John J. Ryan» EFO this Saturday! gets earwormed with Eric Schwartz's Peanuts song. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:02pm) «dave "buh"» speaking of efo, why did they cripple their website? (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:07pm) «Andrea Krause» because many artists are under the mistaken impression that flashier (no pun intended) means better. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:07pm) «dave "buh"» apparently so. but in this case, it's totally useless for the small percentage of us who don't have flash (unix geeks-- which may or may not be a significant percentage of their potential audience :-) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:08pm) «Andrea Krause» I can't view it from work because I don't have flash here and we're forbidden to download. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:10pm) «dave "buh"» yeah i only have a sun workstation on my desk here. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:10pm) «dave "buh"» on linux at home, i doubt it works there either. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:10pm) «Andrea Krause» I don't mind Flash on the whole...it can do cool things...but ALWAYS give users the option for an html version *before* they hit the flash portion. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:10pm) «dave "buh"» i wonder if they'll see ticket sales drop since it's harder for people to find out show dates. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:11pm) «dave "buh"» probably not, since i'm sure we're in the unfortunate minority. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:11pm) «Andrea Krause» depends on how big a portion the internet audience is. I never have a good bead on that. Majority of ticket sales may be from people who don't use the internet at all. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:12pm) «dave "buh"» i'm not sure, i suspect the internet users and the efo audience has a HUGE overlap (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:12pm) «dave "buh"» same with fruvous probably (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:13pm) «Andrea Krause» yeah one would think. but I remember I found myself surprised even in fruvous crowds that by no means did everyone participate in the online aspects. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:14pm) «dave "buh"» well that i would believe. what i meant was people looking up show dates and/or ordering tickets online. not that they participated in the online fan sites, necessarily (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:14pm) «Andrea Krause» A lot of people go to local shows because they're there and the venues advertise. I bet a lot of non-internet folks get pulled in by that. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:14pm) «Andrea Krause» I see your point...I just mean in terms of measurable fluctuations in ticket sales due to the website's inaccessibility...probably the proportion isn't enough to cause notice. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:15pm) «dave "buh"» yeah probably not (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:15pm) «dave "buh"» but still as an overall web complaint, i find it pretty pitiful that some web designers dont' think there's anything wrong by preventing some subset of surfers from getting anything out of their sites. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:16pm) «dave "buh"» i'm not sure i could get away with telling my boss that even 1% of the bank's customers wouldn't be able to use our web offerings. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:17pm) «Andrea Krause» yes that bothers me a great deal as well. When melissa ferrick's site got all flash-y and the mailing list went nuts with complaints, they were basically told to suck it up and deal because the... (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:17pm) «dave "buh"» "They should bank elsewhere since we MUST use flash!" (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:17pm) «Andrea Krause» ..the majority did not have the limitations and liked the pretty bells and whistles. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:17pm) «dave "buh"» i'd be escorted out the door. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:17pm) «dave "buh"» (fortunately i don't actually do any web design here but it still irks me) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:18pm) «nate...» It's fine to me if you want to use flash.. just give a nonflash alternative. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:18pm) «Andrea Krause» I think there's an assumption that as a musician/artist they must do something spectacular to add credibility. But people are loyal to good information and content, not useless beauty. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:19pm) «nate...» I have flash everywhere I use a computer, but will ALWAYS choose the non-flash page because it loads faster and doesn't have "crap". (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:19pm) «nate...» I mean, with efo's site.. you can't even use a scroll wheel on your mouse to go through concert dates... minor? you would think, but it's annoying as HELL. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:19pm) «Andrea Krause» yep that's what I said earlier Nate. I don't begrudge them their creativity and experimentation. Just realize some folks can't or won't go for it and need another option. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:19pm) «nate...» I've emailed efo.... I suggest you all do the same. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:20pm) «nate...» they welcome the input.. and maybe it'll even change things. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:20pm) «dave "buh"» hell a scroll wheel is luxury, i can't see the dates at all. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:20pm) «dave "buh"» what, [email protected]? (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:20pm) «nate...» no.... that doesn't work (another MAJOR no-no) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:21pm) «nate...» [email protected] (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:21pm) «dave "buh"» fartknockers! (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:21pm) «nate...» webmaster, get this, bounces. :D (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:21pm) «Paul D. Beasi» wow that site is. um. wow. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:26pm) «Paul D. Beasi» not only can you not use a scroll wheel to go through concert dates, i can't even use the arrows. i have to drag the scroll button. and the colors are blinding (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:27pm) «lawrence» theymightbegiants.com is similar now. hard to read, and the news REQUIRES you to mouse over the scroll arrows and it scrolls painfully slowly. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «Andrea Krause» every day I am thankful for josh and his simple design :) (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:31pm) «lawrence» I don't get why webmasters think that flash is the best thing for actual navigation design. it's good for self-contained presentations, but not entire websites. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «lawrence» not only that, but html is much easier than flash to put together... (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:32pm) «dave "buh"» cheaper too (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:43pm) «John J. Ryan» EFO did send a mailer saying they got a bunch of responses. (Jan 30, 2003 @ 1:59pm) «John J. Ryan» 1. Non-flash viewing capabilities (Jan 30, 2003 @ 2:00pm) «John J. Ryan» 2. More nude photos of the band (Jan 30, 2003 @ 2:00pm) «John J. Ryan» 3. Non-flash viewing capabilities (Jan 30, 2003 @ 2:00pm) « Previous 100 entries | Next 100 entries »
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