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«Michael (foof) Maki» Lord. I think Nate and I are sharing a brain today. I'm scared. :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:20pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Heh. It's a Simpsons reference. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:20pm) «nate...» be afraid, be very afraid. heh (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:20pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» babelfish are fascinating in theory, but petrifying in practice. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» I speak every language but Greek, they are all Greek to me. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «lawrence» in practice?! (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «lawrence» um, you've actualy put a fish in your ear? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» the thought of putting the theory in practice (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» I do that all the time. Just for fun, they don't tranlate or anything. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «lawrence» oh (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «goovie is married!» hee. a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:21pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Gordon can't say "Huzzah" kisses the hand of his beloved brain (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:22pm) «lawrence» speaking of babelfish: http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:22pm) «nate...» beth: I don't know that I agree... I think it would be amazing in practice! (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:22pm) «goovie is married!» sorry. that was for michael. i may never have anything real to contribute to discussions, but goshdarnit, i know my simpsons refs (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:23pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» it would put an end to the learning of languages. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:23pm) «Jody» hehe (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:23pm) «lawrence» except that language would be strictly for communication. there would be no cultural value anymore. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:23pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» exactly (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:24pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Hmmm...I'm not so sure that's true, Lawrence. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:24pm) «nate...» I don't know that it would be a bad thing though.... while language is interesting, the miscommunication caused by variations causes more trouble than it's worth. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:25pm) «nate...» and, I mean, you could always take the fish out if you wanted to communicate the "old fashioned" way.... for scholors and the like. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:26pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» it's those misunderstandings that create us as humans. our "selves" are defined through our communication. communication is not something in which you simply engage, autonomous. (i told you to not get me started...) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:26pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» but that's the point--it shouldn't be just scholars communicating. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:26pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» LOL. That link is a SCREAM. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:27pm) «nate...» exactly... communication is key, and that would allow us to better communicate. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:27pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Wha? Misunderstandings create us as humans?! I'm not following you. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:27pm) «nate...» beth: you're missing the point..... right NOW just scholars can communicate ..... this would allow EVERYONE to. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:28pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» De toutes les choses que j'ai perdues dans la vie, je manquez mon esprit plus. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:28pm) «nate...» and for those who choose to study language in it's impure form, they would be able to do so. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:28pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» but it wouldn't. do you know how much better an appreciation i have for english and its nuances and quirks and uniqueness because i'm also fluent in french? there are cultural institutions and ideologies EMBEDDED in each culture's language. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:28pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» (wow, michael... you said your spirit misses you.) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:29pm) «nate...» right... but you see, that's because you're interested in studying languages. The majority of people are not. And this would enable them to not be left out of universal communication. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:29pm) «lawrence» si vous �tiez une pomme de terre, qui on vous serait? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:30pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Beth: Heh. That's how Babelfish translated "Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most." :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:30pm) «nate...» The average person can only communicate with one language, which severely limits their ability to communicate with the world as a whole. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:30pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» i know--that just proves my point that you need to learn a language for yourself. the nuances will forever elude ANY form of automated translation. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:31pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» I know spoken fortran (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:31pm) «nate...» imagine a world where everyone could understand each other! It would be an amazing thing. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:31pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, yeah, the nuances will evade automated translation. They elude human translation. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:32pm) «sheryls» o man. that's fun. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:32pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» beth vs. the wall...film at 11. ;-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:32pm) «lawrence» quelle est la diff�rence entre un canard? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:32pm) «Andrea Krause» ducky what what? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:33pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» that link is very humorous, but honestly, it scares me. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:33pm) «nate...» oo.. that's my favorite dish! (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:33pm) «nate...» what link, beth? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:34pm) «Gordondon son of Ethelred» Gordon can't say "Huzzah" kisses the hands of Andrea and Sheryl (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:34pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:35pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» It *scares* you?! (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:35pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Interestingly enough, the phrase "Why a duck" made it through unscathed. It's clearly a Marxist plot. :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:35pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» yes. because as business rely more and more on automated translation, even server-based translation, those are the kinds of translations we will get. it corrupts and disrespects ALL languages and cultures. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:35pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» server-based translation (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «lawrence» no, because it's only meant to be a guide. if you use babelfish properly, you get its translation, and then you refine it. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «lawrence» the multibabel thing is just silly. it's not meant to actually translate anything. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» but people don't do that. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Being a tad melodramatic, don't you think? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» oh i know re: multi (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «lawrence» that's not a problem with babelfish, it's a problem with people. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:36pm) «lawrence» and it will always be a problem with people - they're lazy. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:37pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» this is my cause. language and communication. my interest, my passion, my cause. save culture! save communication! save interaction between the two! (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:37pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» but hey, it got a good conversation going. :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:38pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» and on that note, i will leave you all...off to class. unfortunately not a communication class. that would've been too appropriate. :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:38pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Speaking as one who habitually charges against windmills, I think you're being silly. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:39pm) «nate...» And, ironically, two parts of beth's cause are at odds with each other.... namely: "save culture" and "save communication". (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:50pm) «nate...» saving culture is fine.... but in order to advance our ability to communicate as a species, we need to constantly evolve our language and ability to communicate. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:50pm) «nate...» and evolving our language involves making it consistant and clear. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:51pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» beth, biding time is going to work on this and have a written defense soon...there are some misinterpretations going on here...i will explain myself, but not now, as i REALLY have to run to class now....i *DO* lov (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:52pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» (also, i loooove the fact that i finally have friends intelligent enough to have these conversations with! :)) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:52pm) «nate...» ditto! :) I love discussing this kind of thing. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:52pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» *hugs* (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:52pm) «nate...» *hugs back* enjoy class! (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:53pm) «beth-pseudocanuck!» (oh, that cut off--it said "i *DO* love you all!!!") (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:53pm) «Kevin - King of WiFi» hey everyone (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:54pm) «nate...» yo kevin (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:58pm) «nate...» how do? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:58pm) «Kevin - King of WiFi» pretty meh (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:58pm) «Kevin - King of WiFi» you? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 2:58pm) «nate...» about the same. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:02pm) «Kevin - King of WiFi» im breaking up with my GF today (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:02pm) «Kevin - King of WiFi» :0/ (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:03pm) «nate...» ick! why? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:06pm) «sheryls» ergh, keviiin (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:09pm) «sheryls» goon. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:09pm) «nate...» goon? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:09pm) «sheryls» yeah. poof! he's a goon. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:09pm) «nate...» why did you make kevin a goon? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:10pm) «sheryls» Caffiene Free Diet Pepsi is far superior to Caffiene Free Diet Coke. imho. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:10pm) «sheryls» for breaking up with Caroline (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:10pm) «nate...» I think caffiene free soda kinda misses the point. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:11pm) «sheryls» well (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:11pm) «nate...» soda is to get sugar and caffiene into your system, period. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:11pm) «sheryls» i cant have sugar on my diet, and i cant have caffiene with my anxiety problems - so. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:11pm) «sheryls» if i want to drink something sweet at all, it's either crystal light (blech!) or diet caffiene free soda. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:11pm) «nate...» and... why is he a goon for that? I mean, if it's for a valid reason, would it be better for him to lie to her and say he still wants to be in a relationship? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:12pm) «nate...» naw, drink Jolt. ;) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:12pm) «emilie is CRANKY» oi, oi, saveloy ;) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:13pm) «Kevin - King of WiFi» because im a bad boyfriend (Sep 23, 2002 @ 3:15pm) « Previous 100 entries | Next 100 entries »
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