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«Somepeople» Well, we wouldn't put _every_ fruvous song... we'd carefully select the ones most likely to be requested. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:26am) «lawrence» ah, I see. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:26am) «Somepeople» 100 pages, double-sided, double-spaced, carefully laid out... that's a good hunk of singing. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «lawrence» yeah (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «Somepeople» Well, single-spaced, I meant. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «jaye» and if you're just doing lyrics - our camp song books had several songs on a page. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «lawrence» it means that everyone wouldn't have to hover around the guitar players, either. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «jaye» so. there could be lots. yeah. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «Somepeople» Seriously. 2-4 on most sides of a page, I'd think. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:27am) «jaye» ayup =) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:28am) «lawrence» oh, true. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:28am) «Somepeople» Exactly. And everybody could participate, even if they have a bad memory for lyrics. :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:28am) «Somepeople» We could set up a discussion forum, maybe get different people to be editors for different sections... Fruvous, Nields, EFO, TMBG, etc. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:29am) «lawrence» we'd need at least 4 of the books, though. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:30am) «Somepeople» That's why I'd want to hold it down to 100 pages... after that, reproduction costs get icky. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:30am) «lawrence» you don't have a copy machine at your job? :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:30am) «Somepeople» Heh-heh. I have the workplace from hell as far as appropriating technology for personal use. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:31am) «lawrence» well, if you ever decide you can afford to get fired... :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:31am) «Somepeople» How's this... we could make a few "house" copies, but also make the pages available online for folks to print on their own. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:32am) «lawrence» oooh, that's a good idea. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:32am) «lawrence» and also, since it's just lyrics, formatting isn't as big a deal - things don't need to line up or anything. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:32am) «lawrence» so people could print on different computers, different printers, etc, and it would be fine. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:33am) «Somepeople» Well... we'd want to keep some control over formatting to get as many songs on a page as we could. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:33am) «lawrence» true. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:33am) «lawrence» and we do want consistency. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:33am) «lawrence» "Ok, this is on page 42!" "No, I have it on page 49." you've been to seders before, you know how that is. :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:33am) «Somepeople» Heehee. We always used the Maxwell House hagaddahs. Very consistent. :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:34am) «lawrence» we never had enough of one kind for everyone. and we had different editions of lots of them, too (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:34am) «lawrence» but two important things in the songbook - 1. page numbers. 2. index. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:36am) «Somepeople» Maybe tabs, too... I mean to differentiate sections. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:36am) «lawrence» I'm not going to add quite that much to my chord book, because I don't want to reprint the 300 pages that are in there, but I am going to get a set of dividers so I can easily find bands with few songs. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:36am) «lawrence» I wanted to play God Only Knows yesterday, and it's the only Beach Boys song in there, and it was hell to find, 'cause there isn't even a "miscellaneous" section (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:37am) «Somepeople» Would state-of-the-art HTML formatting be sufficient for page layouts? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:37am) «lawrence» no. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:37am) «Somepeople» Ooooooh.... God Only Knows is right up there with my favorite songs ever. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:37am) «lawrence» the only way to guarantee the same formatting everywhere i sto make it a Word document (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:37am) «Somepeople» That's simple enough, I s'pose. Lots of folks have Word... (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:38am) «lawrence» yeah. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:38am) «Somepeople» Still, it'd be nice to have it in a nice open-standards form. :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:38am) «Somepeople» If we were super cool, we could make an enormous PDF out of the thing. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:39am) «lawrence» oooh. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:39am) «lawrence» pdf could work (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:39am) «Somepeople» I don't have Distiller, or whatever the heck Adobe calls it, but perhaps you do? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:39am) «lawrence» nope. can't make pdfs here. :( (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:40am) «Somepeople» I'm sure _somebody_ in Fruheadland must have it, or access to it. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:41am) «lawrence» the problem I see with html is that the only way to guarantee the right pages is to make everything its own html file, and then you know that people wouldn't print every one (in fact, even a word document some people might print selectively) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:42am) «lawrence» and the double sided thing is tricky. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:42am) «Somepeople» Indeed. I think PDF is the most robust/safe solution. But there are much, much greater publishing experts than me around here. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:42am) «Somepeople» We could author it in Word and distribute it in PDF. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:43am) «lawrence» that's an idea. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:44am) «lawrence» another thing to include with each song is the time - for the benefit of people with shakers and drums, so they know approximately what sort of beat to use. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:44am) «Somepeople» I think we need to set up a forum for this and ask for ideas, suggestions, folks to volunteer software expertise. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:45am) «lawrence» "Clap on 2 and 4 for this song" (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:45am) «Somepeople» Good idea... also maybe what key it's in... (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:45am) «lawrence» key isn't really useful, I think, especially since we often change keys if people can't sing it the way it was originally. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:46am) «Somepeople» True, true. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:46am) «lawrence» plus, most people can't say "Oh, that's in E! I know how to sing it!" (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:46am) «Somepeople» Also true. I remember that camp songbooks had basic chords scrawled in over the words... would that make this too unwieldy? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:47am) «lawrence» yes. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:47am) «lawrence» it's not necessary - most people with guitars bring chords. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:47am) «lawrence» and people without guitars won't need them. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:48am) «Somepeople» You speak wisdom, little pebble. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:48am) «iPauley» lol (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:52am) «Somepeople» So, I'm seeing that Windows XP automatically checks the time from Microsoft Central... (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:55am) «Somepeople» XP is all busy trying to make my life comfortable, in fact. Creeeepy. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:56am) «lawrence» yeah, XP is actually pretty good, as Windows OSes go. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 12:59am) «Somepeople» So, I'm sorta waiting for the "critical update" thing to pop up, seeing as it's been all these months that this version of the OS has been in the box. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:03am) «lawrence» you should go into windows update. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:12am) «lawrence» do it manually. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:12am) «lawrence» get the service pack. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:12am) «lawrence» and then whatever else it tells you to. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:12am) «lawrence» there's a MAJOR flaw in the pre-SP version, which allows certain web links to erase files from your hard drive. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:13am) «Somepeople» I'll do that... thanks for the tip. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:13am) «lawrence» because Windows is dumb and allows your web browser to support hcp:// urls by just sending them to windows, which loads them in the help system. well, there's one file in the help system that will delete any file passed to it in the url (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:14am) «Somepeople» I'm just about to install the SP... be back soon. I hope. :-) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:19am) «lawrence» heh (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:20am) «lawrence» I will probably be gone when you return. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:21am) «lawrence» must get to sleep. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 1:21am) «sheryls» i had this wonderful dream where it was sunday. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 8:52am) «goovie is married!» hmm. who thinks i should quit my job before they fire me, and move to chicago to work in a jewelry store? (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:07am) «I can see the bunny» Leanne's a Road Warrior is back from Shellycon (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:12am) «Andrea Krause» nah, suck money out of your work for as long as you can. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:12am) «goovie is married!» i don't think it's going to be much longer. i think i need to get out while the getting's good. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:13am) «I can see the bunny» I think you should go for it Carey :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:14am) «goovie is married!» and i would much rather be hawking earrings and punching cash register buttons all day than being yelled at and snarked at like i am here. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:14am) «John J. Ryan» Welcome back Leanne! * hugs * (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:14am) «I can see the bunny» the stress of waiting for the axe to fall can't be good for you (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:14am) «I can see the bunny» hey John!! *huggs* (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:15am) «goovie is married!» and while i'm working there, i can be more aggressive in looking for a real job in chicago. (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:15am) «goovie is married!» how was shellycon? or is that a silly question? :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:15am) «I can see the bunny» hee - Shellycon was awesome! The concert rocked and the afterparty was a total blast :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:16am) «I can see the bunny» the band hung around the party til about 1 am :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:16am) «goovie is married!» cool (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:17am) «I can see the bunny» I seem to have spent the majority of the evening talking with Mike Clem... (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:17am) «I can see the bunny» and the Canadian contingent got serendaded with an intimate version of O Canada :) (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:19am) «I can see the bunny» serenaded, that is (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:19am) «I can see the bunny» and wait until you see the set list - I'm sure Shelly will have that up soon (Sep 23, 2002 @ 9:20am) «I can see the bunny» think I'm going to go eat some real food before I have to head off to work - sounds like a good plan... 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