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«lawrence» but they'd do one more song... (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:26pm) «Rob Balder» No she was singing in her guitarist's face like Joan Jett to Michael J Fox in that crappy movie I can't remember the name of. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:26pm) «Rob Balder» Singing "You're so fuckin' special..." (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:27pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Good lord. She was pulling something that became a cliche in the ealy 80s?! (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:27pm) «Rob Balder» It seemed to lack any deeper levels. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:27pm) «Rob Balder» Yeah. And if it was a fluff-rock song it mightve worked, out there on a sunny day at a free summer concert. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:28pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I just find the concept of TMBG having an opening band hilarious. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:29pm) «lawrence» um, don't most bands have openers? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:29pm) «lawrence» it's not exactly unusual (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:29pm) «Rob Balder» But that song deserved a better treatment. Especially with an audience as naturally disaffected and aware of our own creepiness as a TMBG crowd. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:29pm) «John J. Ryan» Then again, I'd hear many people singing along with DC 101 songs, even if it was the 3rd or 4th time playing it. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:32pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Well, yeah...but TMBG is not precisely a typical band. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:32pm) «John J. Ryan» Although those people were drowned out by the collective groan in the crowd when those songs did come on. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:32pm) «lawrence» ugh, DC101. sponsoring concerts of bands they refuse to play on the radio. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:32pm) «Rob Balder» LOL an *excellent* point. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:32pm) «lawrence» yeah, but TMBG are "typical" in the sense that they play rock clubs, tend to include their more rockin' numbers in live shows... (like Violin! :) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:33pm) «lawrence» the only bands I've seen that don't have openers are folk bands, and only sometimes, for them. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:33pm) «Rob Balder» Violin was hilarious. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:33pm) «Rob Balder» The look on the bouncer-guy's face when they did Violin was priceless. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:34pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Hmmm... I think I just came out to one of my cow orkers. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:35pm) «John J. Ryan» The bouncer was cool. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:35pm) «Rob Balder» I enjoyed the toilet paper commercials on the Jumbotron. I was wondering if that implied an endorsement of that brand by John and John. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:35pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I, for some reason, got "Dr. Worm" stuck in my head over the weekend. After not hearing it for like 3 years. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:36pm) «Rob Balder» They did it in an encore, Michael. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:36pm) «Rob Balder» I get it stuck in my head all the time playing Worms2. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:37pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» I'm still pissed that they performed it twice at the last show I went to. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:37pm) «John J. Ryan» No, they ended the main set with it. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:37pm) «lawrence» yeah, the fall 1998 shows were the low point of their live show career, I think. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:37pm) «Rob Balder» Really? I could swear it was in an encore, but I defer... (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:38pm) «lawrence» I saw them in August, 1998, and they played Dr. Worm twice in a set that was only an hour long to begin with. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:38pm) «lawrence» (and it was a regular show, too, not even a festival kind of thing - 9:30 club!) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:38pm) «John J. Ryan» a one-hour show at a regular show? Man, must have been the time they were REALLY dispondent over Elektra (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:39pm) «lawrence» it was a terrible show. they weren't even "on." they were sloppy and just rushed through the set. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:40pm) «lawrence» they were never despondent over Elektra - they got bought out of their contract and made quite a lot of money on the deal, I think. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:41pm) «John J. Ryan» That sucks. I would have felt that too. :( (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:41pm) «John J. Ryan» I thought their contract was for 4 albums. So their contract just wasn't renewed. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:42pm) «lawrence» no, it *was* renewed. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:42pm) «lawrence» and then Elektra got an entirely new staff and they didn't like TMBG. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:42pm) «lawrence» so they got bought out of a brand new contract. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:42pm) «John J. Ryan» Ah, I was not aware of this. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:43pm) «lawrence» I'm pretty sure I saw a Flans interview where he talked about that. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:43pm) «John J. Ryan» Where did you hear this info? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:43pm) «lawrence» but the August, 1998 TMBG show ranks right along with the May, 2000 Fruvous show at the Birchmere.... (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:43pm) «lawrence» although that wasn't so much a bad show as just that *something* was wrong. like, everyone in the audience was feeling weird or something. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:44pm) «lawrence» halfway through the show I was like "Why the hell am I here?" (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:44pm) «John J. Ryan» The Band of Dans are the best thing ever to happen to TMBG. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:44pm) «John J. Ryan» What was August 1998? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:45pm) «lawrence» meh. I still don't like the Band of Dans as much as everyone else does. Graham Maby was a much better bassist than Danny. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:45pm) «John J. Ryan» And Fruvous at the Birchmere in 2000? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:45pm) «lawrence» August 1998 was the TMBG show I was just talking about! (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:45pm) «John J. Ryan» Ah, it sounded like you were mentioning a different one (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:46pm) «goovie is married!» *shudder* fruvous at the birchmere, may 2000 (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:47pm) «Misch» Darmok and Gilead at Tonagra? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:47pm) «John J. Ryan» okay, what sucked about that Fruvous show? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:47pm) «lawrence» no one really knows. just, no one was into it at all. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:48pm) «John J. Ryan» Okay, where the hell did that obscure Star Trek: TNG reference come from? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:48pm) «lawrence» audience. band. no one. something was just off. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:48pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Shaka... When The Walls Fell (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:48pm) «goovie is married!» yeah. and i thought it was just me at the time, but it seems like everyone else felt the same way (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:49pm) «Michael (foof) Maki» Not *that* obscure. At least in my circle of friends (which, truthfully, isn't all that good a measure, but I digress) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:49pm) «Misch» Because I have no idea what was up w/ Fruvous @ the Birchemre... and I felt like Picard did in that episode of ST: TNG. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:49pm) «Rob Balder» Paul, when the reference failed. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:50pm) «Misch» And I'm glad some people knew what I was talking about and that I wasn't smoking crack. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:50pm) «Misch» Thanks Rob. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:50pm) «Misch» Paul. Feeling deja vu again. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:50pm) «Rob Balder» I was at the Birchmere show in May 2000, and I was into it cause I was rocked off my ass on gin. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:52pm) «Rob Balder» But there was a weird vibe in the crowd, yead. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:52pm) «Misch» well, Kevin So was cool, I can say that. He rocks IMHO. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:53pm) «goovie is married!» kevin so was awesome. i even liked marTIna. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:54pm) «Misch» /me believes this years Emerging Artist Showcase will rock too. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:55pm) «John J. Ryan» /me reads Fruvous.com show review of said Birchmere show (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:56pm) «John J. Ryan» I guess you had to be there. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:56pm) «Misch» Yup (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:56pm) «Talcott» hey folks (Jul 1, 2002 @ 12:58pm) «Talcott» How long until winter comes back? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:02pm) «Misch» Just as I was listening to DVN's "The Gates" (?) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:03pm) «Talcott» /me really needs to hear more DVN (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:03pm) «goovie is married!» /me notes that talcott will get his wish soon :) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:04pm) «Talcott» yay! (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:04pm) «Talcott» I just hope they tour near ohio sometime (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:04pm) «jaye» /me does the i-see-dvn-this-weekend FINALLY happydance (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:06pm) «Talcott» /me is jealous of Jaci, yet again (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:07pm) «jaye» i'm almost more excited about crashing the afterglow(s) at internationals, though ;) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:08pm) «Talcott» mmmm..lemonade helps to heal a hot day.. (wow, now I'm making my own ad slogans ;) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:08pm) «Talcott» ok, time to go (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:10pm) «Misch» o/~ we'll drink and drink and drink and drink and then we'll drink some more o/~ (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:22pm) «John J. Ryan» I'm sure they'll do Magic Kingdom at the gospel wake-up call. But what else? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:49pm) «lawrence» maybe they'll just do it twice. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:51pm) «goovie is married!» maybe they'll just let bernie go pentecostal on everyone (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:52pm) «lawrence» er, how do we even know they'll be doing the gospel wake up call? (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:53pm) «lawrence» I mean, it makes sense, but.... (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:53pm) «goovie is married!» efo mentioned it in their july email (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:53pm) «lawrence» ah. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:54pm) «John J. Ryan» Bernie is going to bless the entire Falcon Ridge congregation :) (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:54pm) «lawrence» I just hope there isn't a good workshop that conflcts with the gospel wake up call this year. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:55pm) «John J. Ryan» I guess The Gates would also work for the wake-up call (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:55pm) «lawrence» yeah. possibly. I just hope they don't repeat workshop stuff on the mainstage. (Jul 1, 2002 @ 1:57pm) «lawrence» like the Paperboys did last year. I think they played All Along the Watchtower three times. 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