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«Melinda J. Beasi» he didn't say anyone was wrong to go. he said he thought that people who strongly opposed the cause and went out and supported it anyway with their money and (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:08am)
«Kate Leahy» and if my personal convictions informed my actions to the extent paul would suggest, i would boycott a whole lot of things. like the united states governemtn. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:08am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» time were hypocritical. and i kinda don't see the error there. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:08am)
«bored, bored, bored....» OK - since we're getting all philosophical here...I'll throw this out for discussion: Is there such a thing as true altruism? (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:09am)
«Kate Leahy» heh (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:09am)
«Kate Leahy» that's one of my favorite friends episodes (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:09am)
«Kate Leahy» "i will not bring a child into a world where joey is right!" (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:09am)
«Paul D. Beasi» yeah, but by law we have to give them money. if the government ran on donations i doubt either one of us would be ponying up any cash :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:09am)
«Paul D. Beasi» similarly, if moxy fruvous held a concert with all of the proceeds going to the "bomb afghanstand" fund, i wouldn't be attending (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:10am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» i'm thinking his point was, if you're saying that you went because you didn't care... well, then i guess you didn't care. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:10am)
«Paul D. Beasi» (not that i think they would do this) :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:10am)
«Kate Leahy» well, define "have to." plenty of people don't pay taxes. they go to jail, but that's a small price to pay for your beliefs. thoreau is considered a hero for (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:10am)
«Kate Leahy» it. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:11am)
«Paul D. Beasi» melinda's point is right... if you went because you didn't care... you didn't care (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:11am)
«Kate Leahy» hell, i'm working for a volunteer organization next year that encourages its volunteers to default on government student loans as civil disobedience. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:12am)
«Paul D. Beasi» i wasn't saying that you shouldn't be allowed to go... you should be allowed to attend whatever you want no matter (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:12am)
«Fr�Bill» went to where? (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:12am)
«Paul D. Beasi» what your beliefs. but be honest with yourself. you chose what was more importnat (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:12am)
«Kate Leahy» lisa -- by the way, i don't really think so, but i don't think that's bad. i think people are hardwired to derive some personal emotional benefit from . . . (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:12am)
«Kate Leahy» . . . doing good (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:13am)
«Fr�Bill» you can't do that anymore (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:13am)
«Kate Leahy» chrissy -- yeah. like people who go on unemployment for the summer and resume their seasonal job again in the fall. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:13am)
«Paul D. Beasi» right.. though i'm not sure what the point there is, because you said you don't have an opinion either way (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:14am)
«Paul D. Beasi» or did i misread? (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:14am)
«I can see the bunny» I would tend to agree with Paul - if the cause was something I didn't believe in, I doubt I would attend a show no matter who was giving it... (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:14am)
«Kate Leahy» anyway. i didn't mean for this to get contentious . . . but yeah. that weekend seeing my favorite band was more important to me than making a statement. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:15am)
«Paul D. Beasi» i respect you for that, leanne :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:15am)
«I can see the bunny» (and I'm slow on commenting tonight too - my brain only has one speed tonight *g*) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:15am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» kate, that was his entire point. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:15am)
«Kate Leahy» today things would be different. i don't think i would go. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:15am)
«Kate Leahy» melinda, he called me a hypocrite. i don't appreciate it, because i don't think it's that catastrophic. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:16am)
«Kate Leahy» lisa . . . any more philosophical inquiries? :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:18am)
«bored, bored, bored....» Kate: nope. Just thought I'd throw that out. I'm enjoying this discussion though, I must say (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:19am)
«Kate Leahy» well, yeah. as a seminarian friend of mine said the other day, "i do a lot of things i don't agree with. i'm going to hell, though." (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:20am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» i think we're all hypocrites sometime or another, my husband and i included. but i agree with him on this. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:20am)
«Kate Leahy» but, yeah, it's a great friends episode. "i let a bee sting me." "why?" "so he could look tough in front of his bee friends." (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» (grammer fix: my husband and me") (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«Kate Leahy» "you know he probably died, right?" (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«bored, bored, bored....» Of course everyone is a hypocrite sometimes "Don't do as I do, do as I say (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» grammar. argh. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«Paul D. Beasi» yes, i do all that and i speed, too (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«Paul D. Beasi» i break all kinds of laws (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:21am)
«bored, bored, bored....» Do tell ;-) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:22am)
«Paul D. Beasi» but i don't profit from it (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:22am)
«Paul D. Beasi» and any movie i've downloaded i've not only seen more than once, but i've bought on DVD when it came out (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«I can see the bunny» wow - Paul's a rebel ;) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«Paul D. Beasi» and any mp3 i've downloaded, i've bought the CD for (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«Kate Leahy» then that's not technically breaking the law. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» i fail to see how breaking laws is hypocritical. unless you claim to believe that those laws are important. it's all about priorities. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«Kate Leahy» as long as you've paid for the material. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«Paul D. Beasi» which is why my wife and i have over 1500 CDs combined (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» breaking laws is just crime. as simple as that. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:23am)
«bored, bored, bored....» I regularly take 12 items in the 9 items or less line.... (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:24am)
«Kate Leahy» i rip the tags off mattresses (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:24am)
«Paul D. Beasi» if would be hypocritical of me if i was running a campaign against peer to peer file sharing (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:24am)
«Paul D. Beasi» but i openly support P2P :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:24am)
«soul groove feline» i sneak into 19+ shows to see frulads perform (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:25am)
«bored, bored, bored....» I drink Starbucks coffee!! There, I said it. *whew* I'm glad I got *that* off my chest. ;-) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:25am)
«Kate Leahy» there's an argument to be made that if you vote, you're participating in government and therefore it's hypocritical to vote and knowing break laws. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:25am)
«Kate Leahy» that's kind of a stretch though. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:25am)
«Paul D. Beasi» guess what? i don't vote :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:26am)
«Kate Leahy» ah. then no complaining from you! (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:26am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» i think you can participate in government without agreeing with everything that goes on with it. that's, in fact, the point of participating, is it not? (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:26am)
«Paul D. Beasi» the only person i could honestly vote for is myself, since i'm the only one who believes everything i believe in. since i'm not likely to be running for (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:26am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» and i do vote. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:26am)
«Paul D. Beasi» office any time soon, i'm not likely to voting :)( (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:27am)
«Kate Leahy» heh. i wish it was against the law to not vote. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:27am)
«Kate Leahy» write yourself in. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:27am)
«Kate Leahy» or natural law. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:27am)
«Melinda J. Beasi» well i most certainly don't believe in biblical law. so no hypocrisy there. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:27am)
«Paul D. Beasi» it absolutely should NOT be against the law to not vote. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:28am)
«Kate Leahy» "biblical law" is a sketchy term. it means two completely different things for jews and christians. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:28am)
«Shawna login infrequent» /me invents a law that tired fruheads should got to SLEEP instead of getting addicted to Wall. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:28am)
«Shawna login infrequent» :) (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:28am)
«Kate Leahy» *shrug* it's against the law not to vote in plenty of places. (Jun 2, 2002 @ 12:28am)

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