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Poll: How do you feel about slash?

I'm addicted to it 2 (2%)
I love it 10 (11%)
I read it if I'm bored 11 (12%)
I don't read it but I have no objections 38 (41%)
I hate it 7 (8%)
Huh? 25 (27%)
   Discussion: How do you feel about slash?
Phoenix · 14 years, 5 months ago
but it doesn't do anything for me. I'd prefer by far -ahem- real fanfic I mean with a plot :D
Samantha Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Slash isn't always only about sex. I've read quite a few series that are mostly plot, and little sex.  Some slash is geared towards ONLY sex,yes.. but that's mostly just scene-slash.   It really depends on the writer.
Phoenix Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
I've read quite a few series that are mostly plot, and little sex

I'd read these, too.  I only don't like it when it's overdone. And it's as you pointed out clearly writer dependant.
Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
AMEN!
Agent Scully Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Frulie wrote me a LOVELY fic that was slash and there was not one ounce of sex in it.   
Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

*smooch*  Yeah that's about %90 of my writing. heh (although I like to imply a lot!)

You Rock!!!

  

sheryls · 14 years, 5 months ago
the first slash i ever read was in college, my friend forwarded me a story someone had sent of GROVER AND MARIA from sesame street and i was like OMG WHO THINKS OF GROVER AS NAKED "ew."

i've read more now, that does not include the phrase "blue, furry member" and while it doesn't do much for me, i don't mind it and can't say i object to it at all :P
ChrisChin is Getting Old Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
is barney naked?
lawrence · 14 years, 5 months ago
I think there are some people who are so into 'slash for its own sake' that they'll force really really bad pairings into really horrible stories.

Otherwise, I don't specifically have a problem with the idea, but I think that at times it can be a bit overdone. I'd much rather read a good story, regardless of who gets together in it.
stealthlori Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

that's why i favor historical or political slash.  with or without hobbits.

*ducks*  

Phoenix Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

that's why i favor historical or political slash.

ah you mean like Nixon/Ford ?

*hides from teh Lori*
*runs where nobody can find him*

goovie is married! Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i'd prefer a john marshall/henry clay/john c. calhoun threesome fic, myself.

and william jennings bryan/morey amsterdam.
stealthlori Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
gordon and i invented "Great Explorers" slash.

the first installment was Lewis/Clark. With hobbitses.

we haven't yet actually written it. but.

weeeeeeeee willllllllll.


fear. us.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
That was not slash, it was neglected historical truth. Come on you saw those pictures.

Now Henry the Navigator/Vasco De Gama, that's slash.
Bender Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Caesar/Cassius

Cortez/Monteczuma

And my famous Tutcest.

stealthlori Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
exactly!

*chases Reinhard with evil pairings*



Bender Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Bush/Rumsfeld

Hillary/Monica
jen · 14 years, 5 months ago
oh wait, we're talking about something else...
George E. Nowik Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
heeheehee
Andrea Krause · 14 years, 5 months ago
Not really a fan of fanfic in general. Slash even less so. I don't have objections as such, but it does kinda give me the willies. Don't know why. But I don't HATE it....I just don't have that kind of passion for it. So I fall somewhere between "I don't read it but don't have objections" and "hate it", not really fitting either.
renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i'm almost exactly opposite. :)

i enjoy it, but mostly i just read the stuff that people i know write.

there are a few exceptions to that, some really well written stuff that they really love.

so i voted for "i love it". but really i'm somewhere between that and "i read it when i'm bored"
Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

bet you can guess what option I picked. heh. *blush*

*hugs*

renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
but that's not quite right... i read it when i'm procrastinating.
zil · 14 years, 5 months ago
you name it and I don't approve of it! wisk, limabeans, r&b, habbits of african dungbeatles?! I'm violently opposed to them all!! I'm prez of Z.A.H.A. (zilpha against the habbits of dungbeatles) and I have a petition you can sign that will make their dealings with dung illegal. sign on the line, make your voice heard, stop fecal matter collections.
Andrea Krause Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

Just seeing if replying when you post it in your diary replies to the diary or to the poll....:)

zil Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
wow... this is odd.
goovie is married! · 14 years, 5 months ago
i can't remember the last time i read any slash.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
It must be those slashoholic blackouts.
Samantha · 14 years, 5 months ago
I like slash. I read it almost daily. Mostly though, because my friends all write it. Frülie being one of them. My friend Kerry, whom I met through her.. almost daily.. and friends I've gained through friends. Slash is great, if written properly. Yes, theres certain pairings that just.. shouldn't be.. [i.e, Grover and Maria, Tigger and Curious George/Piglet]...

but, all in all.. it's great. Sometimes what's out of the norm makes for the best stories.
lawrence Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
TIGGER AND CURIOUS GEORGE?!?!??! Oh god, there go all my happy childhood memories.

Of course, if the goal of a particular piece of writing is to be overly squickful, then maybe that's not such a terrible thing. (although I don't think the Colin Creevey/Mad-Eye Moody one I heard about was written with that in mind)
Samantha Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

http://somethingpositive.net/sp11142002.shtml

read THAT.. and then ALL of your childhood memories will be gone.

Someone squished my happy place   

lawrence Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Heh, but the entire point of SP is to cross lines, so it's ok. :)
Samantha Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
yesh.. but that's what's so great about S*P..  That Milholland guy is great.
stealthlori Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
*steals the phrase "overly squickful"*

hee.
lawrence Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
hee! I also like "completely squicktastic". :)
stealthlori Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
dwd, you are apparently quite the repository of squickilicious phrases. :D
sheryls Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

i was scarred for quite a while.

FURRY MEMBER! *dies*

Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

*smooch*

Oh how I love you!  Go slash!

nate... · 14 years, 5 months ago
I think it's a little... scary....
I wouldn't go so far as to say I "hate" it... .but I do try to avoid it if I can.

I think it's an obsession that goes a wee bit overboard.

Mamalissa! · 14 years, 5 months ago
I'm actually pretty clueless. So much as to be able to say I don't know whether or not I've ever read any.
Songbill · 14 years, 5 months ago
I love Slash. Velvet Goldmine rocks.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
That is a great film and it led to my learning about Slash. The friend that told me about it was part of a Velvet Goldmine online slash community.
Songbill Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Okay, this is all very funny. I meant to say "Velvet Revolver," not "Velvet Goldmine," referring to the band that Slash is in. I actually, until now, had no idea what this other slash was all about.
· 14 years, 5 months ago

I picked addicted...mostly because it's true.

Last Summer I got a lj account, and started to make a few friends through some of Fruheads who had already flown over to live journal. 

I first got into reading Harry Potter fanfiction, because I really loved seeing what people could come up with, and I just adored the HP universe.  A close fruhead friend of mine mentioned a few communities and authors I should check out, and many of them turned out to be fics with slash pairings. (girl/girl,  boy/boy)

At first, I was blown away by the variety, and the quality of the writing.  The recs I were given were amazing, and you could really tell that the authors really cared about the characters and writing in the 'spirit' of canon, while playing around with the pairings. I was soaking up everything from drabbles (100 word stories) to novel length fics.  I was soooooooo hooked.   I was reading Harry/Neville, Lucius/Snape, Ginny/Hermione...but I kept coming back to Harry/Draco. 

Then, never having written anything except poetry and songs, I opened up Word, and started writing Amalgam.  It started out as a little gift for another one of my Fruhead slashers, and has turned into a HUGE multi-chapter fic that is now up for an award!  Gah! 

Most people tend to think that slash is just porn without plot (and that does happen) but it's not the bulk of what I read or write.  In fact, I wrote for a full year before I even came close  to producing anything R rated.  I really just love to write, and the HP fandom has given me encouragement, support and has challenged me to never stop learning about my skills.  I write slash, but I also write het and general character fics as well.  For me, it's about the characters and the universe, not what gender the main couple is.

Truth is, my writing is something I do just for me.  If people want to read it, fine, if not, that's ok too.  If f you want some Slash for beginners, ask me, and I'll direct you to some great recs that were first recomened to me when I was a newbie.

Some of the most talented slash writers I know live among us here at FHDC, did you know that? I could name names, but I won't.)

*hugs*

~J~

renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i always read your fics.
Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

really?  I know you've read a few, but...wow. *hugs*

That's so cool.  *hugs you again*

renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
yup!

i don't always know what to say, or how to comment, so in those cases i don't. but i always read.

*hugsyouback*
Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

You rock, baby! *hugs hugs hugs*  Knowing that you read them all means so much to me. *smooch*

Doktor Pepski, kommie · 14 years, 5 months ago
The guitar playing genius of Guns and Roses. Realized he was a god amoungst guitarists, formed Slash's Snake Pit, and then formed yet another band with several members of the old GNR, as well as Scott Weiland and made Velvet Revolver.....errr wait are we talking about the same slash?...crap.
Andrea Krause Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Just wanted to note that while am with you on being somewhat uncomfortable with slash...I think it's QUITE a stretch to peg it as being by bad writers. :) It's just not our thing...but from what I understand there's some really great writing.  (And yeah, I know you were joking around but felt I had to stick up for the slashy little guy. :) )
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Hee.
Yeah, I was just in the process of deleting that post because I thought it was a little too snarky. :)

Melinda J. Beasi Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Thank you, my friend.

I'm not even going to make a real post in here... I'm tired of working to justify something that means a lot to me to people who are just going to snark anyway. But thanks for sticking up for us.
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
awww.. I was just joking in that deleted post... I just thought it would be misconstrued... see? I was right.
Melinda J. Beasi Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
I actually never even saw your comment, and didn't know the comment in question had been made by you. I just saw Andrea's response, and wanted to thank her. :) So no worries.

nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
ahhh. okay. : )

It was made in jest, anyway.
goovie is married! Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i really wish people weren't approaching this poll with the mindset that everyone on fhdc is "just going to snark [at them] anyway." melinda and jaci, you both write gorgeous fic, and i read it when i can (which is rarely, because i do most of my online nonsense at work, and i really don't want anyone looking over my shoulder and seeing pr0n). the only thing that makes me sad about slash is seeing people i care about apologizing for writing about your own lives instead of fandom, or worrying yourselves to tears about fic deadlines, or being hurt by fandom drama. and i have to confess, i feel very very distant sometimes from my fandom friends because i'm not part of that whole world. but that's just me.
renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i don't like to see them upset either...

but to put it in perspective, your songwriting group. in the past you've gotten upset over whether something was good enough, or if you should go, or feel like you can't go because you didn't write something new.

you get hurt by the "instructor guy"

it's the same sort of thing, although it's for fun, it's something they've made a commitment to, and people are counting on some of this stuff coming in at a certain time. hence the stress.

if someone was creating drama within your singing group, and it centred around you, would you be hurt?
goovie is married! Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
ummm...i think you're missing my point.

my point is that i hate seeing people i love get hurt. i never said that it was something stupid for them to get hurt over. i never said i didn't know why they felt hurt or upset. i'm not asking for anyone to put it in perspective for me, especially not in a weird accusatory way with gratuitous quotation marks. i'm getting a strong sense of condescension in your comment here, and i really don't appreciate it.
renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i think that the post does belittle the reactions described, not directly, but that's how i read it. if someone had made a post like that about how involved and worked up i get over politics in the swing community, i would have felt like they were indirectly saying that it was stupid for me to do so.

the quotation marks were because i know that the guy i was talking about wasn't exactly an instructor, or at least not to my understanding of it, but i didn't know what else to call him. i do not think that they are, in that case, gratuitous.
Bender Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
But there's a difference.

There *is* a difference between real-world and internet-based obligations. (With an exception for people who contact work through the internet)

Carey pays for that class. She is hoping to use it to help start her musical career. If she misses a class, she's wasting money and possibly missing out on valuable information.

If someone misses a fic deadline, no one really loses out.

I know people who won't do anything on the internet if it doesn't either amuse them or make them money.

Internet drama is avoidable. If you don't like somebody, you block them. There is absolutely no reason to stress over something that's supposed to be for idle amusement.
renita Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
i disagree.

one: the primary reason people are involved with fanfic is that it amuses them.

two: once i have made a commitment to do something, i do it or do my very best to make it happen. it does not matter whether it is in real life, or on line. my word is my word. while not everyone lives by this rule. i do. and many people i know do.

when you sign up for a fic exchange, you are going to get something on the condition that you provide something for someone else. if you fail to uphold your end, the whole interaction starts to fall apart.
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 14 years, 5 months ago
Everyone seems to be confused, this poll is about Slash, of Hack and Slash, they play the Maryland Renn Faire.
goovie is married! Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
let's sing the hack and slash theme song! ok, everybody! "hack and slaaaaaaaaaaaash!...hack and slaaaaaaaaaaaaaash!...um...never mind."

i love hack and slash very much. especially slash. he is a h0t@$$.

i also love the pyrates royale. and shakespeare's skum. and daniel, duke of danger. and the rogues. and maura kennedy's brother. and soup in a breadbowl. and cheesecake on a stick. omg want renn faire now.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
I ove all of those things too. You didn't mention the best thing about Maura's brother, his name is Gordon!
Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
  
meh Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
You say Hack and Slash, I think reboot.
Now, if you'd said hack&slash, I'd be thinking tabletop rpg.
*goes back to her corner now*
John J. Ryan · 14 years, 5 months ago
Well, I feel he's an innovative guita... Wait a minute....
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
alright, third person making the same joke..... next one gets a punch in the noots.

:D
ChrisChin is Getting Old Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
A noot?!? I got better.
iPauley Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
*chokesnort*

-- Pauley
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
heeee!
Doktor Pepski, kommie Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
but a kick in the noots can be so much better...and a punch is just a little weird.
Josh Woodward · 14 years, 5 months ago
Ooooowwww.. my noots.
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
hehehe
I'm going to be looking forward to falcon ridge even more than usual this coming year.

:D
Andrea Krause Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
.oO Nate has a hankerin' for Jooooooshnoooots Oo.
ChrisChin is Getting Old Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
.oO nate and josh sitting in a tree... Oo :D
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
P U N C H IN G

:D
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Well, he does have a sweet ass.
Annika Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Oh my god.  I almost forgot about Josh's sweet ass!
nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
*gasp!*

How could you forget?!
It's so..... sweet!
Annika Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

I.. just.. I live far away! Shut up!!   *runs away crying*

nate... Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
awww... you poor deprived child.
*hugs*
Annika Back · 14 years, 5 months ago

Well... I am both poor and deprived.

Doktor Pepski, kommie · 14 years, 5 months ago
I don't know what slash is. Because I am more often than not a master of bad/awful jokes, I pulled one of the Gnr Guitarist. what is slash?
meh Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Traditionally, slash is fanfiction involving a homosexual relationship (often between characters who are not homosexual in the canon source of said fanfic). Depending on where one encounters the term, it's sometimes used more broadly to mean any fic that uses pairings that are not "canon." (Although I've only rarely seen that use of the term.)

As nearly as anyone has been able to trace the evolution of the term, it originated out of Kirk/Spock fics - way back in the days when there wasn't a 'net, and fic was only really seen in fanzines.

There's a website with a fairly complete history of the term (at least until it spread to other fandoms - I think that happened within a minute of the first ST slash appearing online, personally) - I could try to dig up the URL if anyone is interested.

ETA - in fanfic that originates from anime fandoms, the term is usually Yoai (hope I've spelled that right) or Yuri (for slash and femslash, respectively) - IIRC. I'm really not much of an anime fan. However, their useage has now spilled over too, and the terms are interchangeable in many

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 5 months ago
Lori, Trace, and I had so much fun explaining Slash to my friend Dave. He was dumbfounded.
emilie is CRANKY · 14 years, 5 months ago
verreh silly question. don't even get me started on this topic.




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