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Josh Woodward · 17 years, 8 months ago
This forum is for people new to FHDC and Fruhead-dom to introduce themselves. Let's make 'em all feel welcome!
hkath Back · 17 years, 8 months ago
What a great idea!! I've noticed a lot of new people signed up for Con :) Let us meet you!
whyshould itell Back · 16 years, 11 months ago

What is fruhead????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goovie is married! Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
just curious...if you don't know what a fruhead or moxy fruvous are, why would you sign up and join this site?
nate... Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Well, interestingly enough.... this site is more of a community these days than it is anything related to the aforementioned things.

I mean, look at stefan. He's become part of it (though he's disappeared recently) even though he doesn't know what fruvous is....

Mamalissa! Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
"even though he doesn't know what fruvous is.... "

oh, well that's easy. It's a high-stakes Mesopotamian board game.

Come to think of it, that's more or less what our Bush Administration is playing these days.
Erika · 17 years, 8 months ago
I am an unfortunate soul that got into Fruvous after they stopped touring... however, I have listened to as many live recordings as I can get my hands on (at an appropriate concert volume as dictated to me by my Fruconcert going friends) in a desperate attempt to get an idea of how great they sound in person. It kinda worked... anyway, I'm looking for more recordings now and expanding my Fruvous knowledge!

-i'd also like to dedicate the Gulf War Song to my brother who is overseas right now fighing in Afghanistan- Matt, come back soon.

Jazz · 17 years, 8 months ago

I'm not really new, but I haven't been around for about 5 years. I'm DJ_Jazz, and 5 years ago I was princess Dana. My dad was Prince of Wayne and my mom was Queen Lisa. So, now that I've introduced myself, that's about it!

ChelleyBean · 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi all - been into Fruvous forever (my fru-story is posted on my web site), and have been on this site for a little while.

I am taking a class - Sociology of the Internet, and we are all about discussing online communities. I did a paper on Fruvous, this web site and my experiences on it. I don't post a lot, but I have gained/learned a lot from being a member. It is funny because in class we debate how you know people online, but you don't know them in real life, but I think that it is awesome that you finally get to "meet" all of the people that you have heard Fru-related stories about here! Let Fruvous never die!
Back · 17 years, 8 months ago

Do you still have the paper you wrote about FHDC?

I'd love to read it! (if it's ok with you.)

I'm sure others would like to see it as well.



ChelleyBean Back · 17 years, 8 months ago
I will send it via email since it is quite long. Basically, it uses FHDC as an example of a positive safespace in virtual reality.
K-Lyn Back · 16 years, 11 months ago too me too!!!
Nik Chaikin Back · 16 years, 5 months ago
Yeah, send a copy my way if you would, please.
Jeffs D (a.k.a Devon) Back · 17 years, 4 months ago

Hi, to "Chelly Bean"! Ya, I'm just a-wonderin' how you got that really cool picture beside your name. if you could reply, that'd be GREAT. k, thanks

OH ya, FRUVOUS RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sarah · 17 years, 8 months ago
I joined a while back and lurked. Now I'm starting to be chatty. A friend of mine introduced me to Fruvous a couple years ago. Now I'm trying to get anyone I can into Fruvous. I've successfully converted my mother to a fruhead, still working on my brothers and father. Almost there with my uncle and have successfully converted several friends. One friend and I have been known to go through mall parking lots singing Fruvous songs as loud as possible and remain in tune. I'm a college student graduating in May and in addition to Fruvous I also love movies, cooking, rollerblading and lots of other stuff (many interests listed on my profile). I also have an adorable dog who is my litttle angel. Sarah
diana @>play · 17 years, 8 months ago


I am a fan Jians but I got in Moxy Fruvous after and I like them just as much, so I thought I'd come and visit this board too. (I go to the ji spot one too)

Nice meeting everyone


MAC · 17 years, 8 months ago
yea hey im new sadly i found out about them after they stopped touring (why does that always seem to be the case?) o well at any rate i hope they start again and id like to ask what albums i should get. i already have live noise and love it! so what else is good?
John J. Ryan Back · 17 years, 8 months ago

Hey there!  Albums to get:

Bargainville:  Studio versions of a lot of the stuff from Live Noise, plus other great songs like Fell In Love and Laika.  Also, some more great a cappella (Lazy Boy, Gulf War Song)

Wood:  Live Noise is only the tip of the iceberg to what I consider the best Fruvous album.  Great album to listen to from start to finish.

B:  Lots of little trickets here, but none of the songs are misses.

Thornhill:  Probably the most underrated album, it's like Wood's sister-album.  Some real gems on this album.

You Will Go To Moon and C should be the last two albums you should get.

Talcott Back · 17 years, 8 months ago
"You Will Go To Moon and C should be the last two albums you should get"

Ok, I'll agree with you on "C" (as much as I defend it around here), but YYGTTM? That was my first album actually. While "Wood" is by far their best, I've always thought of YYGTTM as being the best starting point (other than Live Noise). It show's the range of the band more than any of the other albums.
Annika Back · 17 years, 8 months ago
I'd go with Live Noise as a first album, it is easily the allspice of the Fruvous albums.
A.J. Back · 17 years, 8 months ago
AJ's order of suggested Fruvous album-buying:
Live Noise
hkath Back · 17 years, 7 months ago

I agree totally. I got into them at the time YWGTTM came out, which might have something to do with it, but I always thought it demonstrated the incredible variety of the band (and their shows) even more than Live Noise. You've got the banjo hip hop (as the articles call it), their love and appropriation of covers, some a capella, some political stuff, some social commentary, some profanity, and some stuff that completely defies categorization.

Mmmmm..., Moon.

MAC Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
hey thanks all you guys you really kno how to help a new fruhead out. do yoj ever think they will go off of hiatus? i mean its been going on longer than phish's. and phish didnt have anyone hosting a tv show so id just like to get opinions on that.
A.J. Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
Depends on what you mean by "off". Will they do an album or play a few dates? Probably sometime. Will they tour extensively again? I doubt it.
Snow In Summer Back · 17 years, 7 months ago

i hate to say it ( a lot of people will agree, though), but Fruvous as most people know it is over.  Everyone in & involved with the band has moved on to other things.  Jian with his TV show & solo quasi-career.  Mike's touring Ontario teaching kids about Canadian history.  Murray's touring w/ GBS since Darrell quit (i would love to see Murray on stage again *sigh* with GBS *double sigh*).  Dave, well i don't really know what Dave's been doing since he released his album, but i would love to see him acting again... mostly just so i could point at the TV & yell, "Dave-O!"

anywho... i hope that we'll see even an EP in the future.  i'm even willing to travel to see a one-off show.  it might even bring me to a Con if there was a show again.  meanwhile, i'm just listening to the lads infrequently & expanding my musical horizons.

bored, bored, bored.... Back · 17 years, 7 months ago

Just wanted to throw this little nugget out there.  From a fairly recent Jian interview (Jan 2003):

"It's more that this new phase of my career has prevented me from following my music right now. Moxy Früvous is on hiatus, but still officially together"

This is interesting as well.  From a 2002 interview:

"Like currently we’ve been writing this thing, on a totally separate project, musical theatre, like a musical.  And Mike and I came up with the original idea......."



Annika Back · 17 years, 7 months ago

"It's more that this new phase of my career has prevented me from following my music right now. Moxy Früvous is on hiatus, but still officially together"

Translated "I'm too busy to play with that silly band anymore, I'm on to bigger and better things. Err... uh.. I mean Moxy Früvous is on hiatus, but still officially together."

I love Jian! :^P No seriously, the above was just me being a jerk.

bored, bored, bored.... Back · 17 years, 7 months ago

Well, it *could* be interpreted that way, of course. I prefer to continue deluding myself.  ;-)


MAC Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
well i wish that one day i may see them live...... ahh wishes                 
iPauley Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
I prefer to continue deluding myself.

*raises a glass* Here's to delusions, this one specifically. :-D

-- Pauley
Annika Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
Way to end the chain of... people writing stuff, Pauley. :^P
nate... Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
Pauley killed the thread!

You bastard!
Annika Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
Yeh! You bastard!!  *hugs* I love you still Pauley!
nate... Back · 17 years, 7 months ago
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! :)
Annika Back · 17 years, 7 months ago

Yes, Awwwwwwww, very awwwww even. So Awww you wouldn't even know where to begin your aww's. Don't even try to act like you think you might begin to imagine where the awww begins.... *hugs* I love you too Nate! I Love Everyone on this forum, I'm a big happy love filled... vodka filled, coffee drinking, boca burger eating, girl.

MAC Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
didnt kill just anythred YOU KILLED MY THREAD
Ligeia Lester Back · 16 years, 5 months ago
Can anyone tell me more about this alleged musical? Have they made any progress on it since 2002? has anyone heard anything about it since 2002? and just for kicks, about when in 2002 did this particular interview come out?

thanks, any info is appreciated!!
I can see the bunny Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
Currently Dave is substituting in a band called Betty and the Bobs in Toronto and playing with local artists upon occasion. Not that you'd know he's doing anything from the lack of info on his website. ;)
Arbie Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

Did anyone mention (or even notice) Dave's appearance on a recent Royal Canadian Air Farce show backing up one of the regulars in a song?

I forgot to mention it at the time.... my bad.

Oh yeah, cool idea to start this forum, great to see there are still new people coming in.

Arbie Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
I suspect that the general consensus is correct, Früvous as it was, will not reappear. Unless maybe the winds blow musical taste in such a way that what they do so well is more mainstream. Projects from two, three or four of them are rather more likely. imho. ymmv.


Annika Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
Goodbye Früvous, we'll miss you!
Talcott Back · 17 years, 6 months ago


I always read the general consensus as being that they will return. Not with as heavy a tour schedule, but still all four of them.

Arbie Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

Sorry Talcott, I wasn't clear. When I said "Früvous as it was" what I meant was with the same heavy touring schedule. I think we may see a studio album eventually, maybe with a few dates before to polish the arrangements or after to create some buzz. The guys deserve to make a decent living touring at a slower pace and with a little more comfort than a Dodge van pulling a trailer. The only way they could do that is if something happens (a BIG shift in popular musical taste or a change in the rules of economics) that would allow them to play gigs in the 5000 seat range consistently and play less often. (5000 is an arbitrary figure, the assumption is they would not want to do stadium gigs and I'm guessing that's about as big a concert hall venue as you are likely to find.)

In the near term, it sounds like there is more chance of projects that involve several but not all of them, like the musical which seems to be a Jian and Mike thing (from what I understood from that earlier quote)

Andrea Krause Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
I got all confused for a second because I have CDs from both a group named Betty and a group named The Bobs. :) I couldn't see Dave in a chick band or a fully a cappella band. :) (I'm sure he'd be great in the latter but without his instrumental talent it'd seem like he had a limb chopped off and it'd be sad! :) )
shaggy · 17 years, 6 months ago

Howdy I'm a southern canadian fruhead and proud of it

David A. Scott · 17 years, 6 months ago

I was born in Corning, NY, but have been living in Dallas, TX since March 2002. I'm into Beatles, Monkees, Crowded House, and some guys named Fru-something. ;-) I am very into video and audio projects. I want to trade for Fruvous shows at some point. Glad to be on board!

bored, bored, bored.... Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

Alright, everyone - "Welcome, David!" What shows do you have, by the way?


Back · 17 years, 6 months ago


"Hi, my name is Julie, and I'm a ...Fruhead!...there! I said it!  Admitting is the first step...right?"



Annika Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

Hi Julie! It only works if you work it... *insert serenity prayer*

goovie is married! Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
check out the tape trading page. a lot of us have pretty decent collections and are willing to trade for other shows or b+p.
Emmy · 17 years, 6 months ago
Hey everyone!  one of my various alias' is Emmy and I first heard MF a few years ago in CA at Strawberry Music festival and have heard them in Canada a few times since then.  ANd suddenly I feel like I'm introducing myself in AA. 
Mamalissa! Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

Hi Emmy!  Glad you could join us!

FHDC is kinda like AA, except that we don't give out maps or rescue people on the highway.  Oh wait...nevermind.

John J. Ryan Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
Ah, you mean AAA?
Annika Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
I think AA was pretty right on... 
snooky · 17 years, 6 months ago
Bored at work, so started surfing - remembered the old Fruv site and thought I'd see if there was anything new on their hiatus ending.  From the strings here, sure doesn't seem so. Alas 
todd · 17 years, 6 months ago

Hey all,

I am new and in search of  a CD (according to a friend) that was available at the last show these cats played. If anyone can offer some info I'd appreciate it.

Date, Title, Venue, Setlist...

any ftp sites for .shn's?




nate... Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
A cd that was available at the last show they played?

Like, one released by the band?
todd Back · 17 years, 6 months ago


I am not sure if it was a studio album or a live recording. It was sold at the last show by the band and not available in stores. I am still waiting for a confirmation from my friend for more details.

nate... Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

I'm not sure what that might have been... and I don't remember there being another disc there.

Who was on merch table? Anyone remember?
Talcott Back · 17 years, 6 months ago

Are you thinking of "C"?
It was a short album a rare/unreleased songs. Along the lines of the "b" album.


todd Back · 17 years, 6 months ago


I really cannot say, I am a little unfamiliar with the band. This sounds as though it may be the one. Is it available through an online merchant? Is it considered a bootleg? Sorry, I guess I should have done a little more research before I started asking questions.

A.J. Back · 17 years, 6 months ago
They were probably still selling C at the merch table at the last show. (By last show, did you mean Oberlin, or Toronto). C was not sold in stores. It was available online and from the band. I don't think it is still in stock any more. (Quickly checks Yep out of stock. Everything is out of stock except Wood and Thornhill. I would suggest trying online used CD stores,, or that service that finds hard to find discs. What was that called again? Chrissy?
Agent Scully Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
Yvonne Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
The C album is actually in stock again at  This was mentioned in another thread, but people may have missed it.
100% dainty! · 17 years, 6 months ago

hi all!

I am also one of those ppl who got into Fruvous after they stopped touring, although I did have the fortune of seeing them in 99 at the Philly Folk Festival. I truly hope they tour again at some point in the future.  .But if they don't , I greatly enjoy listening to their music. they are officially my favorite band.

Does anybody have any recommendations for good live tapes to request at the trading post?  Email me at

oh yes, and some newbie questions. what are frumiles and frucards?

Thanks! keep on fruvousing


Tasha · 17 years, 6 months ago

My names Tasha and I'm a VERY new Moxy Fruvous fan. I was at my friends house last night and she had me listen to a few songs of theirs. Immediatly afterwards I decided I loved Moxy. My fav. song so far is Kick in the ass. Well, about me...... hmmmm I'm a Varsity cheerleader at Holton high (a little ghetto town) OK, now I don't want you thinking of me as a prep cause I just said I'm a cheerleader, that would be toatally stereotypical since I'm completely EMO/PUNK and by the way I HATE preps ( yuck! )  What else? hmmm..... my aim sn is xxevilvampxx if ya wanna hit me up sometime.  Well I guess I' m out~

Samantha · 17 years, 5 months ago
hiyeeeeeeee everybody!!! i'm Sam!!! i'm a Fruhead in Las Vegas,NV... in the states.. kindof a loser,eh? .. i swear.. i'm american born.. but am truely canadian at heart.. I'm ANOTHER one of us who found out about the Fru's after they stopped touring.. of course.. being only 16 and having my first computer all to myself for a change.. yeah..  Jian did a song with my friend Sean on his cd Alt.Mania called "Town No More".. check it out!! its GREAT!!.. anyway.. hope to meet some more people on here.. my AOL screenname is ExploitedMammal [A la Jian]... my yahoo is soul_ones_galaxie, and my MSN is ok..?? cya later! -sam
Sarah THE chicken · 16 years, 11 months ago
I'm new.
George E. Nowik · 16 years, 11 months ago

hi.  i'm teh new.  kthx.

 -= george =-

renita Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
oh my friend.

but you are so totally teh old.

George E. Nowik Back · 16 years, 11 months ago

i am so not teh old.

well ok.  in years. d:

 -= george =-

danced with Lazlo Back · 16 years, 11 months ago
you are teh ancient.

Even though i'm pretty sure there's some sort of inside joke i'm missing here...
Kenn · 16 years, 10 months ago
Wow, this thread was an excellent primer on all things Moxy Fruvous!  Thanks for the history lesson.  Glad to see I'm not the only one who has come aboard late   
Barb · 16 years, 5 months ago

Hey all, some of you may know me.  I was a huge Fru-head for about 3 years or so befoer they went on hiatus.  I was at their last show in Oberlin Ohio.  After they stopped touring I finished college and I am grad student doing a double masters program in Divinity and SOcial WOrk in CHicago.  SOme of you may know Sheryl.  We could often be found together. She is a friend from all the way back in Junior High.  It is good to see the fans are still around even without the band touring.  Fruvous Rocks and I probably wouldn't be where I am not if it wasn't for all my experiences and the people I met from being a fru-head.


Chris · 16 years, 5 months ago
Okay, my wife and I are going crazy!!! We live in Los Angeles and were lucky enough to see the fellas on their last west coast swing and instantly were hooked. We can even sing a heck of a rendition of "Gulf War Song" (Still very fitting by the way). Anyway they went on hiatus right after that and we really need them to come back. We only saw them ONCE! It seems like everybody's pretty much given up on them so I guess my question is: is 4 years still technically a hiatus or a "break up"? I'm still calling my "day job" a "day job" but I've been here for 6 years so do I have to drop the "day" and call it my "job"? Anyway one can hope...

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